Title: Squeezer - squeeze large output in the interpreter
Type: enhancement Stage: needs patch
Components: IDLE Versions: Python 3.4
Status: open Resolution:
Dependencies: Superseder:
Assigned To: kbk Nosy List: ajaksu2, gpolo, kbk, roger.serwy, serhiy.storchaka, taleinat, terry.reedy
Priority: low Keywords: patch

Created on 2006-07-27 00:13 by taleinat, last changed 2014-02-24 06:39 by taleinat.

File name Uploaded Description Edit taleinat, 2006-07-27 00:13 Noam Raphael's original (from IDLE-fork)
IDLE_Squeezer.patch taleinat, 2006-07-30 11:05 initial patch
taleinat.20140211.IDLE_Squeezer.patch taleinat, 2014-02-11 21:58 modern patch for Python 3.4 review
Squeezer_Screenshot.PNG taleinat, 2014-02-24 06:39
Messages (22)
msg50765 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2006-07-27 00:13
Here is my improved version of Squeezer - the IDLE
extension to end all of your

* Fixed line counting logic
* Line counting is done according to current window
width and current tab width
* Fixed configHandler to enable reading of raw data
from config files (100% backwards compatible) - needed
by Squeezer to enable configuration of text viewers in

I've been working this vesion without a hitch for
several weeks, but that's hardly enough testing is it?

* the original by Noam Raphael
* a diff against Noam's original
* a diff of against the current SVN
version (revision 46863)
* fixed 'middle click to copy' - now works on Windows

One minor note - the 'middle click to copy' didn't work
on Windows because it simply called selection_own()
which doesn't affect the clipboard. I added
clipboard_clear() and clipboard_append() and it now
works on Windows. This should be tested on Linux, Unix,
OSX etc. to check compatibility.

For more info on the clipboard issue, see:
msg50766 - (view) Author: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk) * (Python committer) Date: 2006-07-27 02:49
Logged In: YES 

OK, thanks.  Please take a look at the two diffs you
uploaded, they seem corrupted. looks ok.
msg50767 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2006-07-30 11:09
Logged In: YES 

Uploaded unified diffs instead of standard diffs. Probably
the first diffs had bad newlines because I'm working on Win.

Also 2 changes:
* minor fix - end case when clicking at beginning of text block
* Allow squeezing of stderr (tracebacks...)
msg50768 - (view) Author: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk) * (Python committer) Date: 2006-07-30 14:20
Logged In: YES 

Ah, that's better. Thanks.
msg50769 - (view) Author: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk) * (Python committer) Date: 2007-02-05 06:05
Delete the patch to, implemented with Patch 1650174.
msg84637 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2009-03-30 20:24
"Test needed"? I'll need a bit of guidance on this.

Has there been a change of policy of which I'm not aware, that patches
to IDLE not going to be accepted unless comprehensive tests are included?

Much of IDLE doesn't include tests, e.g. the RPC code. There's a comment
by K.B.K. in the end of from September '03 saying we need a
proper test suite for it, and testing that should be simple compared to
testing GUI related functionality.

In any case, if someone can suggest a simple approach to test Squeezer
I'll gladly work it up. As it is, I can think of ways to test certain
functions, but I'm not sure how to approach testing GUI related
functionality (or if I should approach this at all).
msg84645 - (view) Author: Daniel Diniz (ajaksu2) Date: 2009-03-30 20:48
There is no such policy AFAIK. The stage field is a tool to help us
handle the issues, sorry to give you a wrong impression. If IDLE has no
tests, 'test needed' doesn't apply here, so we can set this to 'patch

If someone is already working on adding tests for IDLE, please revert
this to 'test needed'.
msg84657 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2009-03-30 21:36
Daniel, Thanks for clearing that up :)
msg210296 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-05 10:01

Can this please go in? It's such a great improvement to user experience!

I've seen too many novice users print a ton of output by accident and have IDLE hang as a result, losing their interactive session. This simple extension avoid those issues completely, while still allowing access to the output if needed.

I'd even be willing to do any extra work required, such as testing on Windows, Linux and OSX. Just tell me what's holding this up!
msg210310 - (view) Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-05 13:23
Could you please provide a patch which applies to default branch?

There is other proposed solution for the problem of large output: issue1442493.
msg211027 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-11 21:58
Here's a completely re-written patch!

The patch is against current 3.3 (changeset 360976a6d8b9), since that's what Terry requested recently on issue3068. It also applies cleanly to the current default branch (changeset 360976a6d8b9).

This patch has cleaner, modern code, with doc-strings everywhere and informative comments where appropriate. It also uses "import tkinter as tk" as Terry recently requested on issue3068.

Furthermore, I've added a very complete set of tests for the new extension, which tests everything I could think of and achieves 100% coverage (!) of These are modern tests which make extensive use of mocking via the awesome unittest.mock module. I've included extensive in-code comments with the tests. Hopefully these will be useful as a reference for writing additional tests for IDLE code (at least other extensions).

Finally, this patch includes a minor change to, adding the ability to specify the delay after which a tooltip is displayed (was hard-coded to 1.5 seconds). This change is required by the extension (I prefer that it uses tooltips with no delay).
msg211068 - (view) Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-12 09:43
Expanded text still makes IDLE unresponsible. Try print('a'*10000000).

I think it will be better to output first 100 lines and a button "More", pressing on which expands next 100 lines.
msg211071 - (view) Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-12 09:55
During experiments I got following message on terminal:

Exception in Tkinter callback
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/serhiy/py/cpython/Lib/tkinter/", line 1482, in __call__
    return self.func(*args)
  File "/home/serhiy/py/cpython/Lib/tkinter/", line 534, in callit
  File "/home/serhiy/py/cpython/Lib/idlelib/", line 44, in showtip
    x = self.button.winfo_rootx() + 20
  File "/home/serhiy/py/cpython/Lib/tkinter/", line 845, in winfo_rootx'winfo', 'rootx', self._w))
_tkinter.TclError: bad window path name ".3066068076.3066068332.text.3048812460"

May be it is unrelated.
msg211075 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-12 10:07
Regarding the tooltip traceback, seems like that could be related. I added a tooltip to the "squeezed text" buttons, with no delay, so perhaps there's some kind of race condition?

Could you try changing "delay=0" in the code to "delay=50" and see if the issue goes away?

I would test this myself if you could specify how to reproduce that error.
msg211076 - (view) Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-12 10:26
I'm not able to reproduce the problem after the first time (even with 
msg211083 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-12 11:18
Indeed, expanding very long texts still degrades the performance of IDLE. But the user has to explicitly expand the text (by double-clicking the button) and can easily squeeze the text again.

As for your suggestion to show just the first several lines and a "more..." button, that would be a significantly more complex solution. It is already easy to preview the squeezed text, either by launching an external viewer or by copying the text to the clipboard.

Yes, a user could still get large amount of text in the shell by expanding large squeezed text. In other words, a user can still shoot himself in the foot; but now he'd have to purposefully aim the shotgun at his foot first.
msg211643 - (view) Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-19 18:51
The test emits a lot of warnings.
msg211645 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-19 18:53
Serhiy, which warnings?

Some of the tests use Tk GUI elements, so they include "requires('gui')". You need to run the tests with a proper environment so that these tests are run; otherwise you get a warning that the 'gui' resource in unavailable.
msg211646 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-19 18:54
See related issue6143 "IDLE - an extension to clear the shell window", where special support for Squeezer is required in that extension (patch included there).
msg211647 - (view) Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-19 19:00
Mainly deprecation warnings about assertEquals(). Run

    ./python -Wall -b -m test.regrtest -vuall test_idle
msg212021 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-23 18:52
See msg212020 for a Python-style explanation of the utility of the Squeezer extension.
msg212061 - (view) Author: Tal Einat (taleinat) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-02-24 06:39
Added screenshot of what working with the IDLE shell with the Squeezer extension looks like (on Windows).

Note that the second squeezed text is the very long "Max recursion depth" exception traceback, which I manually squeezed after it was printed.
Date User Action Args
2014-02-24 06:39:59taleinatsetfiles: + Squeezer_Screenshot.PNG

messages: + msg212061
2014-02-23 18:52:56taleinatsetmessages: + msg212021
2014-02-19 19:00:27serhiy.storchakasetmessages: + msg211647
2014-02-19 18:54:37taleinatsetmessages: + msg211646
2014-02-19 18:53:35taleinatsetmessages: + msg211645
2014-02-19 18:51:10serhiy.storchakasetmessages: + msg211643
2014-02-12 11:18:16taleinatsetmessages: + msg211083
2014-02-12 10:26:28serhiy.storchakasetmessages: + msg211076
2014-02-12 10:07:22taleinatsetmessages: + msg211075
2014-02-12 09:55:05serhiy.storchakasetmessages: + msg211071
2014-02-12 09:43:47serhiy.storchakasetmessages: + msg211068
2014-02-12 08:56:02taleinatsetnosy: + terry.reedy, roger.serwy
2014-02-11 21:58:22taleinatsetfiles: + taleinat.20140211.IDLE_Squeezer.patch

messages: + msg211027
2014-02-05 13:23:13serhiy.storchakasetmessages: + msg210310
stage: patch review -> needs patch
2014-02-05 10:01:40taleinatsetmessages: + msg210296
2012-10-16 20:43:57serhiy.storchakasetnosy: + serhiy.storchaka

versions: + Python 3.4, - Python 3.2
2010-08-22 01:57:30BreamoreBoysetversions: + Python 3.2, - Python 3.1, Python 2.7
2009-03-30 21:36:31taleinatsetmessages: + msg84657
2009-03-30 20:48:30ajaksu2setnosy: + ajaksu2

messages: + msg84645
stage: test needed -> patch review
2009-03-30 20:24:44taleinatsetmessages: + msg84637
2009-03-30 04:35:33ajaksu2setnosy: + gpolo
versions: + Python 3.1, Python 2.7, - Python 2.6

type: enhancement
stage: test needed
2009-03-21 00:45:51ajaksu2linkissue1442493 dependencies
2008-01-06 12:08:08christian.heimessetassignee: kbk
versions: + Python 2.6
2006-07-27 00:13:56taleinatcreate