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Author terry.reedy
Recipients cben, eric.araujo, gpolo, terry.reedy
Date 2010-08-21.20:46:39
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I switched to patch review because I am not sure unit test is possible.

I did not advocate a change to immediate execution in my original post. I noted that pasting multiple statements does not work and that if it cannot be made to work, the limitation should be documented. I am fine with pasting working the same as when one copies a previous statement to the current input prompt with <cursor on line>+Enter.

Issue #9618 elaborated "<statement>\n<statement> does not work" by pointing out that <simple statement>\n<simplestatement> silently ignores the second while <compoundstatement>\n<simplestatement> is reported as a syntax error. I pointed out that if <compoundstatement> does not end in \n, it really is a syntax errror for interactive mode, but even with \n\n, it still is reported as such when it is not.

So a possible revised minimal request is that an initial compound statement be executed and the rest ignored. However ....

I have discover that the elaboration is not exactly true either. msg114019 says "If you manage to type several simple statements into the prompt (by copy-pasting them, using Ctrl+J, or creative deletion), IDLE runs the first one and silently ignores the rest:" However, when I edit 'for x in []:' to 'x = 3' *after* adding '    y = 7' I get with 3.1:
>>> x
>>> y
>>> x = 3
	y = 7
>>> x
>>> 7
Somehow, both statements are executed because of the indent! This might be considered a bug as the indent should be a syntax error. Without it, the second line is ignored, as reported.

The significant difference between the (Windows) interactive interpreter and IDLE is that the II is *line* oriented* while IDLE is *statement* oriented. With II, entry (and history) is by single lines. A line entered cannot be edited and history (up/down arrow) copies a single previous line. Multiline compound statements require *manual* indentation. Rerunning (and editing) a multiline compound statement requires rerunning (and editing) each line one at a time. IDLE, allows multiline editing before the double Enter (hence the shenanigans above, impossible with II), does auto indents, and retrieves and allows editing of entire multiline statements with <cursor>+Enter.

Since the IDLE Shell operates differently from the II, it cannot and should not imitate II paste behavior. It seems to treat pasted code more-or-less the same as edited code from the keyboard, which it expects to be a statement, single-line multi-statment, or compound statement. If there is a problem, I think perhaps it is in how it handles abusively edited multiline statements. Perhaps it should always raise SyntaxError instead of silently ignoring part of the entry.
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