msg357495 - (view) |
Author: Dong-hee Na (corona10) * |
Date: 2019-11-26 14:08 |
array.fromstring was deprecated at 3.2
IMHO, now we can remove array.fromstring.
For my research, there is no usage on the standard library.
I 'd like to propose that let's remove array.fromstring from 3.9
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msg357496 - (view) |
Author: Dong-hee Na (corona10) * |
Date: 2019-11-26 14:10 |
I'd like to tag this issue as an easy issue.
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msg357497 - (view) |
Author: Dong-hee Na (corona10) * |
Date: 2019-11-26 14:13 |
For whom are interested in this issue,
Please wait until the core developer decides to approve this issue. :)
After that, we can review the PR for this issue.
Thank you for understanding.
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msg357524 - (view) |
Author: Brett Cannon (brett.cannon) * |
Date: 2019-11-26 19:10 |
If it was documented as deprecated and raising a deprecation warning then 3.2 is definitely far enough back to warrant removing it.
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msg357527 - (view) |
Author: Brett Cannon (brett.cannon) * |
Date: 2019-11-26 19:51 |
Although I will admit we have not had a discussion on python-dev about removing stuff that was left for Python 2.7 compatibility, so that discussion should probably occur first before we go ripping stuff out.
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msg357538 - (view) |
Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * |
Date: 2019-11-26 22:51 |
Thoughts:
* The tostring() method should be handled in the same way.
* Remediation is easy because from_bytes() is a alias
* Still, all removals cause disruption from at least some users
* The only real benefit of removing it is a sense of tidiness;
otherwise, there's no harm to keeping it (it's not broken).
* The other deprecation in the array module says, "Deprecated since
version 3.3, will be removed in version 4.0". Perhaps this
one should have had the same qualifier.
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msg357576 - (view) |
Author: Brett Cannon (brett.cannon) * |
Date: 2019-11-27 17:59 |
> there's no harm to keeping it (it's not broken)
... for now. :) There's always the risk that will change if we keep the code around.
> The other deprecation in the array module says, "Deprecated since version 3.3, will be removed in version 4.0". Perhaps this one should have had the same qualifier.
If the function is left then I agree it should probably be updated to match the rest of the module.
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msg357601 - (view) |
Author: Dong-hee Na (corona10) * |
Date: 2019-11-28 05:39 |
> The other deprecation in the array module says, "Deprecated since version 3.3, will be removed in version 4.0". Perhaps this one should have had the same qualifier.
I agree,
How about note it in the documentation and logging rather than removing them?
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msg357623 - (view) |
Author: Brett Cannon (brett.cannon) * |
Date: 2019-11-28 17:25 |
> How about note it in the documentation and logging rather than removing them?
Yep, docs and raising DeprecationWarning should be good.
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msg357932 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2019-12-06 17:43 |
> If it was documented as deprecated and raising a deprecation warning then 3.2 is definitely far enough back to warrant removing it.
Exactly. I'm in favor of removing fromstring() and tostring() methods right now, and update 3.7 and 3.8 documentation to mention that the methods are removed in Python 3.9, not Python 4.0.
Either do it right now, or wait the beginning of the next Python 3.x release cycle. I prefer to push some incompatible changes at the beginning of dev cycles, to get enough time to measure the feedback from users.
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Brett opened a more generic discussion about the deprecation process, since PEP 602 has been accepted:
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/BRA7G4UIGGW2X7YY55KQZBOGJEYNUV6O/
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msg357933 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2019-12-06 17:52 |
I chose to write PR 17487 even if the issue was tagged as "easy (C)", just to make sure that the change is done as soon as possible in the 3.9 dev cycle.
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msg357941 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2019-12-06 19:22 |
bpo-38897 removed usage of deprecated array.fromstring() method. Commit in master:
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/386d00cc341b549800776b906bfc6b20ea40c7db
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msg358072 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2019-12-09 13:09 |
New changeset 0131aba5ae20d704b972ecd2ef0fc6c9e370a1b3 by Victor Stinner in branch 'master':
bpo-38916: array.array: remove fromstring() and tostring() (GH-17487)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/0131aba5ae20d704b972ecd2ef0fc6c9e370a1b3
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msg358073 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2019-12-09 13:16 |
Brett Cannon: "If it was documented as deprecated and raising a deprecation warning then 3.2 is definitely far enough back to warrant removing it."
I understood that Brett is in favor of removing it.
Raymond Hettinger: "The tostring() method should be handled in the same way."
Done.
Raymond Hettinger: "Remediation is easy because from_bytes() is a alias"
For code supporting Python 2 and Python 3, it may be annoying, but Python 3.9 will only be released after Python 2 support will end. So I consider that it's an acceptable annoyance. Users can put "if six.PY3" in their code or don't support Python 3.9.
Raymond Hettinger: "Still, all removals cause disruption from at least some users"
I'm perfectly aware of that. But I consider that it's worth it. I chose to push my change early in the 3.9 development cycle, to get users feedback earlier. So we can still revert the change if they are too many complains.
Raymond Hettinger: "The other deprecation in the array module says, "Deprecated since version 3.3, will be removed in version 4.0". Perhaps this one should have had the same qualifier."
I proposed PR 17523 to document that tostring() and fromstring() deprecated aliases will be removed in Python 3.9.
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msg358084 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2019-12-09 13:46 |
New changeset 0381ea79ac2da03179c8512c581cac588b69cff9 by Victor Stinner in branch '3.8':
bpo-38916: Document array.array deprecation (GH-17523)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/0381ea79ac2da03179c8512c581cac588b69cff9
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msg358087 - (view) |
Author: miss-islington (miss-islington) |
Date: 2019-12-09 13:52 |
New changeset 21e11383cc59146184da0d69a3f19f004215f9a7 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.7':
bpo-38916: Document array.array deprecation (GH-17523)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/21e11383cc59146184da0d69a3f19f004215f9a7
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msg358089 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2019-12-09 13:58 |
The aliases were deprecated since Python 3.2. It's now time to use the newer names.
array.array.fromstring() implictly converted Unicode to UTF-8:
$ python3
Python 3.7.5 (default, Oct 17 2019, 12:16:48)
>>> import array
>>> a=array.array('B')
>>> a.fromstring('€uro')
>>> a
array('B', [226, 130, 172, 117, 114, 111])
>>> list('€uro'.encode('utf8'))
[226, 130, 172, 117, 114, 111]
The removal is now documented in 3.7 and 3.8.
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