Issue4111
Created on 2008-10-12 16:08 by bretthoerner, last changed 2010-01-15 18:18 by glyph.
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| python-2.6-dtrace.diff | bretthoerner, 2008-10-12 16:08 | dtrace patch against python 2.6 (with rude/broken Makefile) | ||
| unnamed | twleung, 2009-01-22 21:41 | |||
| dtrace.diff | skip.montanaro, 2009-01-25 22:00 | |||
| unnamed | twleung, 2009-04-22 21:21 | |||
| stap-python.patch | mjw, 2009-12-08 21:27 | Cleaned up systemtap/dtrace patch | ||
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| msg74670 - (view) | Author: Brett Hoerner (bretthoerner) | Date: 2008-10-12 16:08 | |
It would be great if the main Python distribution supported DTrace on (Open)Solaris / FreeBSD / OS X. I've attached a patch against 2.6 that instruments function calls. It's from the ed scripts included in Apple's Python distribution: http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html (PSF License) It is imperfect because I wasn't sure how to do the equivalent of IFDEF in the Makefile.pre.in, as you can see this patch will make ceval.o depend on pydtrace.h, which depends on having a local `dtrace` command. The rest of the patch properly uses IFDEFs. |
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| msg74676 - (view) | Author: Brett Cannon (brett.cannon) * | Date: 2008-10-12 18:48 | |
At one point we were told Apple would try to backport their dtrace instrumentation. I don't know what the status of that is, but it obviously has not happened. |
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| msg75809 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2008-11-13 02:45 | |
It appears that Apple has dtracified their Python exeutable in Leopard. Any chance that they can be persuaded to release a patch? I'm working on a patch (based on some work from a friend at work), but it seems like Apple already has a horse in the race. It would be nice if we could see what they have done. |
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| msg75810 - (view) | Author: Brett Hoerner (bretthoerner) | Date: 2008-11-13 02:57 | |
They have released the changes, that's what my patch (attached to the issue) is based on. It's working, it just needs to be cleaned up (it will fail, I believe, for people on systems without DTrace - as I said I'm not very familiar with Makefiles). You can use it now against 2.6 and probably with very few changes against 2.5. |
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| msg75811 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2008-11-13 03:31 | |
Brett> They have released the changes, that's what my patch (attached to
Brett> the issue) is based on.
I see the reference to Apple in your original post, but can't find anything
related to dtrace & python starting from the URL you gave. Do you have
something more specific?
At this point Jeff's code does a fair bit more than simply tracing the
CALL_FUNCTION opcode but needs some work with the other CALL_FUNCTION_*
opodes. It also has some obmalloc tracing which I've not yet tested. I
would have thought Apple would more heavily instrument the interpreter than
it appears they have.
Brett> It's working, it just needs to be cleaned up (it will fail, I
Brett> believe, for people on systems without DTrace - as I said I'm not
Brett> very familiar with Makefiles).
I took care of the configure.in/Makefile.pre.in stuff today. The intent is
that you would configure using --enable-dtrace then not have to do anything
else to build a dtrace-aware interpreter.
Brett> You can use it now against 2.6 and probably with very few changes
Brett> against 2.5.
We are using 2.4 at work and it works there. I'm fairly certain we should
be able to get it working for the entire 2.x and 3.x series with only a
little effort.
(I still need to get approval to release it, but I don't think that will be
a big deal. I've already alerted my boss and he's generally receptive to
such things.)
Skip
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| msg75825 - (view) | Author: Brett Hoerner (bretthoerner) | Date: 2008-11-13 15:09 | |
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Skip Montanaro <report@bugs.python.org> wrote: > I see the reference to Apple in your original post, but can't find anything > related to dtrace & python starting from the URL you gave. Do you have > something more specific? http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.5/python-30.1.2/ That isn't Python 3.0, that's what I guess they call Python "Apple Version 30"? Anyways, it's their Python 2.5.1 and their "patches" against it are actually ed scripts, contained in fix/ That's where my patch comes from, it's just changing the .ed scripts to a patch and applying it against 2.6 > At this point Jeff's code does a fair bit more than simply tracing the > CALL_FUNCTION opcode but needs some work with the other CALL_FUNCTION_* > opodes. It also has some obmalloc tracing which I've not yet tested. I > would have thought Apple would more heavily instrument the interpreter than > it appears they have. Sun has released a patch against DTrace that probes more than just function calls also. At least, it provides line number and some other information, http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref//jds/spec-files/trunk/patches/Python-07-dtrace.diff I couldn't figure out why it broke the compile on OS X though, and could only get it working on Solaris. There's another problem (I think) with DTrace probes ... if the Apple guys release Apple-Probe-Python.d and the Sun guys release Sun-Probe-Python.d (just two scripts) and we setup our probes differently, one or both will fail (because one may expect a probe for foo while another expects a probe for bar). Kind of sucks, considering Sun was first and Apple chose to probe Python differently. Now we have to pick one or make a 3rd... I could be very mistaken here, though. |
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| msg75828 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2008-11-13 16:05 | |
Brett> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.5/python-30.1.2/ ... Brett> http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref//jds/spec-files/trunk/patches/Python-07-dtrace.diff Thanks for the pointers. I'll work on getting a uniform patch which incorporates both. (Though some of the comments in the OpenSolaris patch are a bit scary.) Brett> There's another problem (I think) with DTrace probes ... if the Brett> Apple guys release Apple-Probe-Python.d and the Sun guys release Brett> Sun-Probe-Python.d (just two scripts) and we setup our probes Brett> differently, one or both will fail (because one may expect a Brett> probe for foo while another expects a probe for bar). Kind of Brett> sucks, considering Sun was first and Apple chose to probe Python Brett> differently. Yeah, that would suck. It would be nice if they could agree on a common set of probes. I don't know that we have any contacts within the two development communities but if we can scare some up maybe we can get them to talk to each other. :-/ Skip |
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| msg75832 - (view) | Author: Brett Cannon (brett.cannon) * | Date: 2008-11-13 18:55 | |
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:05, Skip Montanaro <report@bugs.python.org> wrote: > > Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> added the comment: > > Brett> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.5/python-30.1.2/ > ... > Brett> http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref//jds/spec-files/trunk/patches/Python-07-dtrace.diff > > Thanks for the pointers. I'll work on getting a uniform patch which > incorporates both. (Though some of the comments in the OpenSolaris patch > are a bit scary.) > > Brett> There's another problem (I think) with DTrace probes ... if the > Brett> Apple guys release Apple-Probe-Python.d and the Sun guys release > Brett> Sun-Probe-Python.d (just two scripts) and we setup our probes > Brett> differently, one or both will fail (because one may expect a > Brett> probe for foo while another expects a probe for bar). Kind of > Brett> sucks, considering Sun was first and Apple chose to probe Python > Brett> differently. > > Yeah, that would suck. It would be nice if they could agree on a common set > of probes. I don't know that we have any contacts within the two > development communities but if we can scare some up maybe we can get them to > talk to each other. :-/ > Obviously Ronald is the Apple insider to talk to. If you want Sun, you might want to talk to Ted Leung and see who he can put you in touch with. |
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| msg75834 - (view) | Author: Ted Leung (twleung) | Date: 2008-11-13 19:59 | |
And courtesy of Philip Jenvey, here I am. I would *really* like to work to help make this happen. Laszlo Peter at Sun has been doing the ports of Python on Solaris, but we are not up to 2.6 just yet. I'm attaching a pointer to his patches against 2.5: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/spec-files/trunk/patches/Python25-07-dtrace.diff These patches include John Levon's ustack provider, which if you care about DTrace and Python, you want to have. I've also had some conversations with people at Apple, and they have agreed that they will pull DTrace probes from python.org if they got in there. That would solve the diverging probe problem. I'd love to have a discussion about DTrace probe futures for CPython -- probably on python-dev. |
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| msg75849 - (view) | Author: Laszlo (Laca) Peter (laca) | Date: 2008-11-14 06:02 | |
I'm the python package maintainer at Sun. We would really like to get the dtrace probes upstream, let me know how I can help. |
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| msg80381 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2009-01-22 21:35 | |
So I completely dropped the ball on this. It appears we have some folks from Sun and Brett surmised that Ronald Oussoren would be the likely person to do the heavy lifting on the Apple side of things. Ronald, I've made you nosy. I will try to get the Solaris patch Ted referenced running against the trunk (2.7) and py3k (3.1) code bases, but it would be helpful if you could take a quick stab at it as well. |
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| msg80382 - (view) | Author: Ted Leung (twleung) | Date: 2009-01-22 21:41 | |
On Jan 22, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> added the comment: > > So I completely dropped the ball on this. It appears we have some > folks from Sun and Brett surmised that Ronald Oussoren would be the > likely person to do the heavy lifting on the Apple side of things. > Ronald, I've made you nosy. I will try to get the Solaris patch Ted > referenced running against the trunk (2.7) and py3k (3.1) code bases, > but it would be helpful if you could take a quick stab at it as well. Great. Actually the latest version of the patch is this one: <http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/spec-files/trunk/patches/Python26-07-dtrace.diff >. I tried to quickly compile it on MacOS 10.5, Python 2.6.1, but it didn't work right out of the box. Ted |
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| msg80388 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2009-01-22 22:53 | |
After applying the patch and reconfiguring I get compilation errors in Python/ceval.c. I suspect it's because there is a new header file, Python/python.h. That's probably found by the #include directive in favor of Include/Python.h because of the Mac's case-insensitive file system. Changing the Makefile targets and actions so it's named python-dtrace.h seems to work a bit better. I get an error later running dtrace which I have yet to investigate. |
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| msg80395 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2009-01-23 02:00 | |
me> I get an error later running dtrace which I have yet to investigate.
Apple's dtrace program doesn't support the -G flag. When I remove it from
Makefile.pre.in and rebuild I get an error about privileges:
dtrace -o Python/dtrace.o -C -s ./Python/python.d Python/ceval.o
dtrace: failed to initialize dtrace: DTrace requires additional privileges
I tried adding "sudo" to the dtrace command. Then it prompts for my
password and emits this error:
sudo dtrace -o Python/dtrace.o -C -s ./Python/python.d Python/ceval.o
Password:
dtrace: failed to compile script ./Python/python.d: line 11: extraneous argument 'Python/ceval.o' ($1 is not referenced)
I'm not sure what to do at this point. I'm not really a dtrace person.
Perhaps the Apple and Sun dtrace experts can offer a way out of this little
corner.
Skip
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| msg80436 - (view) | Author: Laszlo (Laca) Peter (laca) | Date: 2009-01-24 05:17 | |
Please see here for discussion about the -G flag on OS X: http://markmail.org/message/4nheqnexjr2o6mcx If I read it correctly, on OS X, you will need to use -h instead of -G and it won't emit an object file (dtrace.o) so you will not need to link it. Unfortunately, this means that the makefile will have to be different on Solaris and OS X :( |
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| msg80447 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2009-01-24 13:46 | |
Laca> Please see here for discussion about the -G flag on OS X:
Laca> http://markmail.org/message/4nheqnexjr2o6mcx
Laca> If I read it correctly, on OS X, you will need to use -h instead
Laca> of -G and it won't emit an object file (dtrace.o) so you will not
Laca> need to link it.
Laca> Unfortunately, this means that the makefile will have to be
Laca> different on Solaris and OS X :(
We can worm around that using configure. Thanks for the reference. That
will go a long way toward getting the Sun dtrace probes working on Mac OSX.
For reference by others, here's Lee Packham's dtrace patch for PostgreSQL on
Mac OSX: http://blog.leenux.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/postgresql-825-fixosxdtracediff.gz
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| msg80542 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2009-01-25 22:00 | |
Here's a patch against the current trunk (2.7) which compiles on my Mac. It adds a --with-dtrace configure option. The code checks to see if the -G option is understood by the dtrace command. If so, dtrace support is added Sun-style. If not we do things Apple's way. The existing test cases pass on Apple except for one case in test_sys which tries to confirm the size of a frame object. I added an #ifdef WITH_DTRACE around the extra slot but there is no way of telling from Python code that this extra slot is there. That would have to somehow be exposed to the Python programmer so the test can be adjusted. All tests pass when --with-dtrace is omitted. I have not yet tried this on Solaris. I will try to get to it this week if someone doesn't beat me to it. There are as yet no new dtrace test cases so I can't confirm that the added dtrace support actually works. There are also no documentation updates. Unlike most compile options this adds a significant new feature to the runtime environment so some documentation changes are probably called for. |
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| msg80671 - (view) | Author: Ted Leung (twleung) | Date: 2009-01-27 22:05 | |
I tried building this on my Mac and got this; ar cr libpython2.7.a Python/_warnings.o Python/Python-ast.o Python/ asdl.o Python/ast.o Python/bltinmodule.o Python/ceval.o Python/ compile.o Python/codecs.o Python/errors.o Python/frozen.o Python/ frozenmain.o Python/future.o Python/getargs.o Python/getcompiler.o Python/getcopyright.o Python/getplatform.o Python/getversion.o Python/ graminit.o Python/import.o Python/importdl.o Python/marshal.o Python/ modsupport.o Python/mystrtoul.o Python/mysnprintf.o Python/peephole.o Python/pyarena.o Python/pyfpe.o Python/pymath.o Python/pystate.o Python/pythonrun.o Python/structmember.o Python/symtable.o Python/ sysmodule.o Python/traceback.o Python/getopt.o Python/pystrcmp.o Python/pystrtod.o Python/formatter_unicode.o Python/formatter_string.o Python/dynload_shlib.o @DTRACEOBJS@ Python/mactoolboxglue.o Python/ thread.o ar: @DTRACEOBJS@: No such file or directory make: *** [libpython2.7.a] Error 1 my configure line was: ./configure --enable-framework --enable-toolbox-glue --with-threads -- enable-dtrace On Jan 25, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> added the comment: > > Here's a patch against the current trunk (2.7) which compiles on my > Mac. It > adds a --with-dtrace configure option. The code checks to see if > the -G > option is understood by the dtrace command. If so, dtrace support > is added > Sun-style. If not we do things Apple's way. > > The existing test cases pass on Apple except for one case in > test_sys which > tries to confirm the size of a frame object. I added an #ifdef > WITH_DTRACE > around the extra slot but there is no way of telling from Python > code that > this extra slot is there. That would have to somehow be exposed to > the > Python programmer so the test can be adjusted. All tests pass when > --with-dtrace is omitted. I have not yet tried this on Solaris. I > will try > to get to it this week if someone doesn't beat me to it. > > There are as yet no new dtrace test cases so I can't confirm that > the added > dtrace support actually works. There are also no documentation > updates. > Unlike most compile options this adds a significant new feature to the > runtime environment so some documentation changes are probably > called for. > > Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file12861/dtrace.diff > > _______________________________________ > Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> > <http://bugs.python.org/issue4111> > _______________________________________ |
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| msg80679 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2009-01-27 23:39 | |
Ted> I tried building this on my Mac and got this; Forgive me if I'm preaching to the choir here. Did you run autoconf or autoreconf after applying the patch? If not, @DTRACEOBJS@ would not be a substitutable string. It's fairly common (at least in the Python community) to omit modified configure scripts from these sorts of patches because the changes to generated configure scripts between different versions of autoconf are so massive that they dwarf the actual functional changes in the patch, often by a couple orders of magnitude. Skip |
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| msg80691 - (view) | Author: Ted Leung (twleung) | Date: 2009-01-28 03:06 | |
I didn't run auto(re)conf. After I did that, all was well. However, the ustack provider doesn't appear to be working correctly. I tried running the py_profile.d from the DTrace toolkit, and it doesn't show any stack traces, and when the script starts up it says cc1: warning: /dev/fd/5 is shorter than expected The basic function entry/exit probes appear to be working. John +nosy'ed himself, so perhaps he'll have some insight? On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> added the comment: > > Ted> I tried building this on my Mac and got this; > > Forgive me if I'm preaching to the choir here. > > Did you run autoconf or autoreconf after applying the patch? If not, > @DTRACEOBJS@ would not be a substitutable string. It's fairly > common (at > least in the Python community) to omit modified configure scripts > from these > sorts of patches because the changes to generated configure scripts > between > different versions of autoconf are so massive that they dwarf the > actual > functional changes in the patch, often by a couple orders of > magnitude. > > Skip > > _______________________________________ > Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> > <http://bugs.python.org/issue4111> > _______________________________________ |
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| msg81229 - (view) | Author: John Levon (movement) | Date: 2009-02-05 21:12 | |
I haven't seen "shorter than expected" message before, sounds like a Mac OS X specific thing. As for never getting any probes out, this is where it gets fun. Debugging this is very tricky indeed: it involves you dropping into the kernel debugger and looking at the interpreter's state. Most likely, the compiler is doing something different with the relevant Python functions, causing the logic in the DTrace ustack probe to fail. I don't even know how the Apple guys debug this sort of thing, but they'd definitely need to be involved. |
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| msg86273 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-22 06:12 | |
Skip, it doesn't appear that the ustack helper is getting incorporated into the OS X build anywhere. This rule is obviously wrong (compiling the wrong input file with the wrong flags): Include/phelper.h: $(srcdir)/Include/phelper.d dtrace -o $@ $(DFLAGS) -C -h -s $(srcdir)/Python/python.d I *think* it should be something along these lines: Include/phelper.h: $(srcdir)/Include/phelper.d dtrace -o $@ -DPHELPER $(DFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) -C -h -s $(srcdir)/Include/phelper.d There are some static functions in the standard system headers that get pulled in that need to be avoided. The #define _SYS_STAT_H up at the top avoids similar problems on Solaris. I'm working through the OS X headers now, but I'm stuck on trying to avoid sys/_structs.h. Unfortunately, it does not have the #ifndef _SYS__STRUCTS_H magic up at the top that would allow me to do so, nor any convenient #ifdefs around the offending declaration. <sigh> Even if that would work, phelper.h is not #included anywhere. I'm not really sure where it needs to go. On Solaris, the object file gets linked in, but on OS X, you don't generate an object file; you just #include the .h. Somewhere. I'm guessing where the pydtrace.h is currently, but I don't really know. John, do you have any insights? Also, s/DTRADEHDRS/DTRACEHDRS/ |
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| msg86277 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-22 06:41 | |
Got a bit farther. Adding this stanza to the top of phelper.d gets past the issues in the headers: #ifdef __APPLE__ #define _SYS_TIME_H_ #define _SYS_SELECT_H_ #define __MATH_H__ #define _OS__OSBYTEORDER_H #define _FD_SET #define __GNUC_VA_LIST #endif /* __APPLE__ */ However, I now get a more legitimate dtrace compilation error that John might be able to help us interpret: $ dtrace -o /Users/rkern/hg/Python-2.5.4/Include/phelper.h -DPHELPER -I. -IInclude -I/Users/rkern/hg/Python-2.5.4/Include -C -h -s /Users/rkern/hg/Python-2.5.4/Include/phelper.d dtrace: failed to compile script /Users/rkern/hg/Python-2.5.4/Include/phelper.d: line 110: relocation remains against user symbol D``PyEval_EvalFrameEx (offset 0x5) I also tried running this without -DPHELPER as a regular DTrace script rather than a ustack helper and ran into a problem that I've noticed with any OS X Python build I've tried. I cannot seem to probe any of the C functions in the Python interpreter. There are no simply pid$target:a.out:: probes available. I'm wondering if that is an effect of their being in a .framework, but I think I've been able to probe other symbols other .frameworks. |
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| msg86278 - (view) | Author: Laszlo (Laca) Peter (laca) | Date: 2009-04-22 07:34 | |
Look at these lines at the beginning of phelper.d: #if defined(__i386) #define startframe PyEval_EvalFrameEx #define endframe PyEval_EvalCodeEx #elif defined(__amd64) #define PyEval_EvalFrameEx PyEval_EvalFrameExReal #define startframe PyEval_EvalFrameExReal #define endframe PyEval_EvalCodeEx #elif defined(__sparc) #define PyEval_EvalFrameEx PyEval_EvalFrameExReal #define startframe PyEval_EvalFrameEx #define endframe PyEval_EvalFrameExReal #endif You may need to adjust these if your compiler defines something different from the __i386 or __amd64. I guess an #else #error your architecture was not recognized #endif would be useful here. |
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| msg86279 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-22 07:45 | |
This is on an Intel Core 2 Duo running OS X 10.5.6. __i386 is defined. |
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| msg86290 - (view) | Author: John Levon (movement) | Date: 2009-04-22 12:10 | |
Robert, I have no idea how Mac OS does pstack helpers without generating object files, sorry. > no simply pid$target:a.out:: probes available. Hmm. Try adding -Z to see if that helps. > /Users/rkern/hg/Python-2.5.4/Include/phelper.d: line 110: relocation > remains against user symbol D``PyEval_EvalFrameEx (offset 0x5) This is trying to tell you that there's no such function. Indeed, this isn't mentioned in my original patches, have you been editing it? |
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| msg86322 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-22 20:00 | |
John, -Z does not appear to help: $ sudo dtrace -Z -n 'pid$target::PyEval_EvalFrameEx:entry' -c python dtrace: description 'pid$target::PyEval_EvalFrameEx:entry' matched 0 probes I'm not sure how that would help. If I'm reading the man page correctly, that just let's dtrace continue on even when the probe specifiers do not match anything. It still doesn't let me probe these functions. The only modification I made to phelper.d was to add the stanza of #defines given a few messages up. The failing line expands in the C preprocessor to this line (expanding at_evalframe(), then startframe and endframe): dtrace:helper:ustack: /((uintptr_t)arg0 >= ((uintptr_t)&``PyEval_EvalFrameEx) && (uintptr_t)arg0 < ( (uintptr_t)&``PyEval_EvalCodeEx))/ This is based on the phelper.d in dtrace.diff attached to this ticket by Skip. It is the same (modulo my #defines) as the phelper.d in Python26-07-dtrace.diff from OpenSolaris as linked by Ted. Hmm, I am applying this to Python 2.5.4, though. Perhaps I need to go back to the Python25-07-dtrace.diff, which does appear to use PyEval_EvalFrame. PyEval_EvalFrameEx is in Python 2.5, so I thought I would try the latest and greatest. If I were to process it with dtrace -h, do you think that I could name it as a .c and compile it into an object file with gcc? Or does dtrace -G do significantly more stuff behind the scenes to generate its object file? |
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| msg86326 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2009-04-22 20:24 | |
Sorry, I've been away from this issue. I was sort of hoping the Sun and
Apple folks would just work things out amongst themselves and present us
with a fait accompli. ;-) I'll try to mess around with this a little.
Robert> $ sudo dtrace ...
Perhaps not quite on-topic for this tracker item, but it bugs me that the
mere compilation of a D script requires root privileges. I guess there's
not much we can do about this other than complain to Sun and Apple though.
Skip
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| msg86330 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-22 20:42 | |
Skip> Perhaps not quite on-topic for this tracker item, but it bugs me that the Skip> mere compilation of a D script requires root privileges. It doesn't. "dtrace -G" and "dtrace -h" (the only "mere compilation" that dtrace does) run without root privileges. That line you quoted was actually probing a process and thus needed root privileges. |
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| msg86335 - (view) | Author: John Levon (movement) | Date: 2009-04-22 21:17 | |
Yes, my mistake. I noticed this typo in the original patch:
207 +PyObject *
208 +PyEval_EvalFrameexEx(PyFrameObject *f, int throwflag))
Can you:
- verify that HAVE_DTRACE is indeed defined for ceval.c
- do an nm on ceval.o and look which Eval* functions you do have
Somehow, PyEval_EvalFrameEx seems not to be ending up in the .o file. It
should be easy for you to work out why...
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| msg86337 - (view) | Author: Ted Leung (twleung) | Date: 2009-04-22 21:21 | |
On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> added the comment: > > Sorry, I've been away from this issue. I was sort of hoping the Sun > and > Apple folks would just work things out amongst themselves and > present us > with a fait accompli. ;-) I'll try to mess around with this a little. I've been in touch with some folks at Apple about this, but it's not at the very top of their priority list.... |
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| msg86338 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-22 21:26 | |
Ah, duh, of course. The problem here with PyEval_EvalFrameEx is that I don't have ceval.o on the command line *at all* since OS X's dtrace doesn't support -G. It doesn't appear to accept ceval.o with -h, either, so I suppose that adding the ustack helper may simply be impossible unless Apple adds the -G flag. Thanks for you help John. |
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| msg86343 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-22 22:12 | |
Hmm, wait a second. Never mind. The Solaris patches don't have ceval.o on the line for compiling phelper.o, either. If dtrace needs to resolve the symbol PyEval_EvalFrameEx in an object file, how does it know to look in ceval.o for the phelper.d? WITH_DTRACE is defined in ceval.c and PyEval_EvalFrameEx is in ceval.o, but I don't understand how that relates to compiling phelper.d. |
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| msg86384 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-23 23:43 | |
Is there any interest in my expanding the list of probes? Ruby has quite a few more than function-entry and function-return, to give some examples of what is possible: http://dev.joyent.com/projects/ruby-dtrace/wiki/Ruby+DTrace+probes+and+arguments I think that adding probes that correspond to PyTrace_LINE and PyTrace_EXCEPTION would be straightforward and worthwhile. PyTrace_C_* may also be worthwhile, but you can probably accomplish similar things with the normal pid probes if you know the C function names (although something like printing the name of a raised exception will probably require a dedicated probe). Adding probes to replicate what the LLTRACE configuration option did, but dynamically, might be interesting. |
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| msg86385 - (view) | Author: Jesús Cea Avión (jcea) | Date: 2009-04-23 23:46 | |
> Is there any interest in my expanding the list of probes? Definitively!!!. |
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| msg86389 - (view) | Author: Skip Montanaro (skip.montanaro) | Date: 2009-04-24 02:03 | |
Robert> Is there any interest in my expanding the list of probes? Yes. Jeff Garrett (a guy I work with) added some more DTrace probes to a 2.4 source tree at work. I mentioned them in an earlier message. I'll check with him at work tomorrow and see about making sure they can be released. I think it's important to get Sun and Apple in sync as well. Maybe more important than adding new probes. (Though if the Python community drives the creation of new probes perhaps both will pick them up.) Skip |
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| msg86392 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-24 03:24 | |
We could probably merge Apple's and Sun's probes without too much trouble. Apple simply extended function-entry to include the argcount in addition to Sun's (filename, funcname, lineno) arguments. We could use Apple's probe while retaining compatibility with Sun-oriented DTrace scripts already in existence. The two different function-returns are a bit of a problem. I recommend starting with Sun's argument list because there are already a number of quite useful scripts that use it in the DTraceToolkit. We could extend Sun's argument list to add the *object pointer, but I don't actually know of a use case. I haven't seen a script in the wild that uses it. It seems like it would be tricky to write something in a DTrace script that could make much use of it besides printing out the address. Maybe you could navigate your way down to the type name, but that might be unreliable. I suggest adding the *object pointer argument only if we can devise a use case or if one of the Apple folks pop up with one. I don't feel too bad making Apple devs modify a single character from their internal scripts if they don't make them public. |
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| msg86396 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-24 05:02 | |
James McIlree from Apple has informed me on dtrace-discuss that ustack helpers cannot currently be built on OS X. Bummer. |
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| msg86399 - (view) | Author: Robert Kern (robert.kern) | Date: 2009-04-24 06:45 | |
Ah, I misread the Apple function-return probe code. Its extra argument is the type name of the return object or "error" if an exception was raised, not the returned object itself. Could be useful. |
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| msg96154 - (view) | Author: Mark Wielaard (mjw) | Date: 2009-12-08 21:27 | |
I took the patch and tweaked it a little so that it works with systemtap (at least for the function entry/exit probes). It is against 2.6.2 since that was what was in the Fedora 12 src package I was using. Cleaned up the configure checks a little, but otherwise it is almost exactly as is. Also tracked in Fedora as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545179 |
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| 2010-01-15 18:18:33 | glyph | set | nosy:
+ glyph |
| 2010-01-15 17:45:48 | wsanchez | set | nosy:
+ wsanchez |
| 2009-12-08 21:27:26 | mjw | set | files:
+ stap-python.patch title: Add DTrace probes -> Add Systemtap/DTrace probes nosy: skip.montanaro, rhettinger, jcea, ronaldoussoren, belopolsky, movement, bretthoerner, laca, twleung, jbaker, robert.kern, sirg3, chrismiles, danchr, dmalcolm, mjw messages: + msg96154 components: - Installation |
| 2009-12-07 05:35:12 | mjw | set | nosy:
+ mjw |
| 2009-09-18 13:41:44 | dmalcolm | set | nosy:
+ dmalcolm |
| 2009-09-18 00:24:35 | jbaker | set | nosy:
+ jbaker |
| 2009-04-24 06:45:16 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86399 |
| 2009-04-24 05:03:00 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86396 |
| 2009-04-24 03:24:08 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86392 |
| 2009-04-24 02:03:18 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg86389 |
| 2009-04-23 23:46:10 | jcea | set | messages: + msg86385 |
| 2009-04-23 23:43:33 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86384 |
| 2009-04-22 22:12:12 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86343 |
| 2009-04-22 21:26:48 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86338 |
| 2009-04-22 21:21:49 | twleung | set | files:
+ unnamed messages: + msg86337 |
| 2009-04-22 21:17:35 | movement | set | messages: + msg86335 |
| 2009-04-22 20:42:07 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86330 |
| 2009-04-22 20:24:06 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg86326 |
| 2009-04-22 20:00:01 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86322 |
| 2009-04-22 12:10:41 | movement | set | messages: + msg86290 |
| 2009-04-22 07:45:21 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86279 |
| 2009-04-22 07:34:47 | laca | set | messages: + msg86278 |
| 2009-04-22 06:41:45 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86277 |
| 2009-04-22 06:12:58 | robert.kern | set | messages: + msg86273 |
| 2009-03-09 11:38:20 | danchr | set | nosy:
+ danchr |
| 2009-02-23 06:02:59 | chrismiles | set | nosy: + chrismiles |
| 2009-02-19 15:38:46 | sirg3 | set | nosy: + sirg3 |
| 2009-02-05 21:12:21 | movement | set | messages: + msg81229 |
| 2009-02-02 13:11:09 | jcea | set | nosy: + jcea |
| 2009-01-28 03:06:38 | twleung | set | messages: + msg80691 |
| 2009-01-27 23:39:51 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg80679 |
| 2009-01-27 22:05:26 | twleung | set | messages: + msg80671 |
| 2009-01-27 16:50:41 | movement | set | nosy: + movement |
| 2009-01-25 22:00:13 | skip.montanaro | set | files:
+ dtrace.diff messages: + msg80542 |
| 2009-01-24 21:59:06 | brett.cannon | set | nosy: - brett.cannon |
| 2009-01-24 13:46:43 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg80447 |
| 2009-01-24 05:17:54 | laca | set | messages: + msg80436 |
| 2009-01-23 02:00:46 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg80395 |
| 2009-01-22 22:53:58 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg80388 |
| 2009-01-22 21:41:29 | twleung | set | files:
+ unnamed messages: + msg80382 |
| 2009-01-22 21:35:05 | skip.montanaro | set | assignee: skip.montanaro versions: + Python 3.1, Python 2.7, - Python 2.6 messages: + msg80381 nosy: + ronaldoussoren |
| 2009-01-22 21:15:26 | rhettinger | set | nosy: + rhettinger |
| 2009-01-22 20:56:07 | robert.kern | set | nosy: + robert.kern |
| 2008-11-14 06:03:00 | laca | set | nosy:
+ laca messages: + msg75849 |
| 2008-11-13 19:59:01 | twleung | set | nosy:
+ twleung messages: + msg75834 |
| 2008-11-13 18:55:33 | brett.cannon | set | messages: + msg75832 |
| 2008-11-13 16:05:23 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg75828 |
| 2008-11-13 15:09:43 | bretthoerner | set | messages: + msg75825 |
| 2008-11-13 03:31:44 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg75811 |
| 2008-11-13 02:57:59 | bretthoerner | set | messages: + msg75810 |
| 2008-11-13 02:45:05 | skip.montanaro | set | messages: + msg75809 |
| 2008-11-13 02:26:51 | belopolsky | set | nosy: + belopolsky |
| 2008-11-12 18:36:15 | skip.montanaro | set | nosy: + skip.montanaro |
| 2008-10-12 18:48:20 | brett.cannon | set | nosy:
+ brett.cannon messages: + msg74676 |
| 2008-10-12 16:08:14 | bretthoerner | create | |