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Author arigo
Recipients amaury.forgeotdarc, arigo, fijal, loewis, theller
Date 2008-05-24.07:58:15
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> However, even the TLS copy of errno may change because of this,
> if the finalizer of some object invokes ctypes, right?

Yes, it's annoying, but at least the Python programmer has a way to fix
this problem: he can save and restore the TLS copy of errno around the
call to ctypes done in the finalizer, using get_errno()/set_errno(). 
This matches what a C programmer would have to do if he wanted to write,
say, a debugging function that can be called from anywhere including
between an OS call and the following check for errno.

(Another note: the C-level errno and the TLS copy should also be
synchronized when the C code invokes a Python callback.)

In PyPy, when creating and using our own internal FFI, we started by
having a pair of functions that could directly read or change the
C-level errno.  Then we ran into various troubles (e.g. just stepping
through the Python code in a debugger messes things up because of the
debugger's own input/output) and finally reached the design I propose
here.  (Admittedly PyPy's internal FFI is a bit more low-level than
ctypes, so maybe it's more appropriate for ctypes to use a higher-level
approach that a return value checker.)

(A related issue that we may or may not care about: it's more than
likely that various people have already come up with various workarounds
to handle errno, and these workarounds will probably stop working after
ctypes is changed...)
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2008-05-24 07:58:57arigosetspambayes_score: 0.00434184 -> 0.0043418384
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2008-05-24 07:58:56arigosetspambayes_score: 0.00434184 -> 0.00434184
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2008-05-24 07:58:54arigolinkissue1798 messages
2008-05-24 07:58:47arigocreate