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Author terry.reedy
Recipients garden, georg.brandl, loewis, terry.reedy
Date 2008-04-25.22:20:37
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I consider the difference between builtin and def'ed functions to be
something of an implementation wart -- one that I would like to see
someday removed if sensibly possible.  How is a beginner to know that
the parameter names used in the docs and help() responses are not really
parameter names?

In the meanwhile, I think something like the following in the doc would
help: "(Note: an implementation may provide builtin functions whose
positional parameters do not have names, even if they are 'named' for
the purpose of documentation, and which therefore cannot be supplied by

Also in the meanwhile, the OP can def-wrap builtins
import builtins
def abs(number): return builtins.abs(number)
# but some like int require more care with its no-default option
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