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Author skypickle
Recipients josh.r, skypickle, steven.daprano
Date 2019-05-21.14:08:10
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Thank you for your reply and the lucid explanation. 
    On Monday, May 20, 2019, 9:15:42 PM EDT, Steven D'Aprano <report@bugs.python.org> wrote:  

Steven D'Aprano <steve+python@pearwood.info> added the comment:

Hi Stefan, and welcome. 

This is not a help desk, you really should ask elsewhere for explanations of how Python works. There are no bugs here: what you are seeing is standard pass-by-object behaviour.

You are misinterpreting what you are seeing. Python is never pass by reference or pass by value.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaluation_strategy

https://www.effbot.org/zone/call-by-object.htm

*All* function objects, whether strings, ints, lists or numpy arrays, are passed as objects. If you want to make a copy, you have to explicitly make a copy. If you don't, and you mutate the object in place, you will see the mutation in both places.

> Shouldn't the id of each variable be different if they are different instances?

Not necessarily: IDs can be reused. Without seeing the actual running code, I can't tell if the IDs have been used or if they are the same ID because they are the same object.

> Would it possible for the python interpreter/compiler to let me know when a function is going to clobber a variable that is not used in the function or passed to the function or returned by the function

Python never clobbers a variable not used in the function. It may however mutate an object which is accessible from both inside and outside a function.

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nosy: +steven.daprano
resolution:  -> not a bug
stage:  -> resolved
status: open -> closed

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