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Author rbcollins
Recipients berker.peksag, bignose, brett.cannon, carljm, erik.bray, fov, kevinbenton, kushal.das, michael.foord, poke, rbcollins, ztane
Date 2015-07-25.18:59:32
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Some great points raised here.

Yes, we'd need .calls and .returnvalue and so on all made accessible via another route, and that would be a less direct spelling.

e.g. a_mock.returnvalue = 3
-> 
# function
set_returnvalue(a_mock, 3)
or
# separate object to get at the mock housekeeping vs the mocked interface
mocki(a_mock).returnvalue = 3

etc.

None of which make me want to say 'wow thats a great api'.

I wouldn't want to advocate for a patch for this unless:
 - it would feel as convenient to use as the current API does
 - it would be possible to be both forward and backwards compatible with the existing API indefinitely: There are lots of users of mock, and offering a [presumably] improved API is not worth turning all that code into an instant sea-anchor: if we're going to change this, we need to do so in a -very- graceful fashion, because unlike e.g. the mock_open things that only affect some users of mock, this would (if done poorly) break every user ever.

For clarity, I have no plans to write such a patch at this time, though if someone did come up with a proof of concept I'd happily review it, and dig up Michael to get his thoughts *if and only if* it met the two constraints above.

I'm not sure of the right bug tracker state to say 'this is a maybe, maintainer isn't enthused about it'.
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