> there is no easy way to convert it into "seconds since the epoch"

Ah yes, it remembers me that Alexander rejected my .totimestamp() patch (#2736) because he considers that "Converting datetime values to float is easy":

(dt - datetime(1970, 1, 1)) / timedelta(seconds=1)

I still think that this formula is *not* trivial, and must be a builtin method. For example, the formula is different if your datetime object if an aware instance:

(dt - datetime(1970, 1, 1, tzinfo=timezone.utc)) / timedelta(seconds=1)

When do you need to convert file timestamps to epoch? If we use datetime in os.stat output, we should also accept it as input (e.g. for os.utime).

> any broken-down time has issues of time stamp ordering in
> the duplicate hour of switching from DST to normal time

I understand that it is an issue of the datetime module. Can it be solved, or is there a design issue in the module?

> time zone support is flaky-to-nonexistent in the datetime module

Python 3.3 has now a builtin implementation of fixed timezones, but yes, there are still things to be improved (e.g. support timezone names like "CET").

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I don't have a strong opinion on this issue, I just wanted to know why datetime cannot be used for this issue.