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Author dsdale24
Recipients Darren.Dale, benjamin.peterson, daniel.urban, dsdale24, ncoghlan, ned.deily
Date 2011-05-14.21:48:15
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On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Benjamin Peterson
<> wrote:
> Benjamin Peterson <> added the comment:
> 2011/5/14 Darren Dale <>:
>> Darren Dale <> added the comment:
>> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Benjamin Peterson
>> <> wrote:
>>> Benjamin Peterson <> added the comment:
>>> I still dislike the reduntancy of having abstractmethod and abstractproperty on a method. I think a better idea is having abstractproperty.abstract(getter/setter/deleter).
>> Right, but I explained why the redundancy is necessary in order to
>> preserve backwards compatibility. If the abstractproperty constructor
>> were changed to tag methods it receives as abstract, it would be a
>> backwards-incompatible change in behavior with potential consequences
>> for consumers of abstractproperty.
> I'm not suggesting that it tag methods it receives as abstract.
> @getter/setter/deleter would still act the same.

I wasn't talking about @getter/setter/deleter. I tried to be clear
that I was talking about the abstractproperty() constructor. It
doesn't currently tag the methods it receives as abstract, and to
change this would be a backward incompatible change. Therefore,
@abstractmethod should be used to tag methods as abstract before
passing them to the abstractproperty() constructor, and the abc
documentation should be changed to reflect this.

>> abstractproperty.abstract(getter/setter/deleter) could be implemented,
>> but it still wouldn't change the fact that if a getter/setter is
>> intended to be abstract, it needs to be decorated with @abstractmethod
>> before being passed to the abstractproperty() constructor.
> Why not? You could set the __abstractmethod__ attribute in abstractgetter().

I was not talking about decorating before passing @abstractgetter. I
was talking about decorating before passing to the abstractproperty()

>> This is
>> true today in <=python-3.2: its not mentioned in the documentation,
>> but the behavior exists all the same.
>> Properties are composite objects, their behavior is defined by it is
>> the setters/getters/deleters they receive. So its actually a very
>> conceptually clean solution to decorate a method with @abstractmethod,
>> and it fits really nicely with the rest of the abc module. Why does
>> abstractproperty need special abstract(setter/getter/deleter) methods,
>> when the existing methods combine with @abstractmethod in a clean way
>> to produce the exact same result? To save one line of code?
> I find it produces a rather unfortunate ordering dependency for the
> decorators which is hard to remember.

Why is it difficult to remember that you need to tag a method as
abstract before passing it to the property?
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