Message127813
> > We normally don't. One reason is that buffering inside sys.stderr can
> > make ordering of output incorrect. There are some places in C code where
> > we do "fprintf(stderr, ...)" but that's for specialized debugging
> > (disabled in normal builds) or fatal error messages.
>
> This is the case that I had in mind. What does non-debug build do on
> a fatal error?
It uses fprintf(stderr, ...). That's the only thing it can do (there's
no way sys.stderr is guaranteed to be usable at that point). If C stderr
is invalid, then too bad.
> Also, can we be sure that Python does not call C
> library functions that write to stderr behind the scenes?
I think you can guess the answer :)
> What is the use case for "python >&-"? Is
> it important enough to justify the risk of accidental data loss?
I don't think so. One more important use case is when running a Unix
daemon, which has (AFAIK) to close all std handles. I don't know how
that interacts with using C stderr, especially if the handle closing is
done in Python (and therefore only calls C close() and not fclose()!).
Perhaps we should provide a sys function to fclose() C std{in,out,err}. |
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2011-02-03 20:06:46 | pitrou | set | recipients:
+ pitrou, loewis, doko, exarkun, amaury.forgeotdarc, belopolsky, benjamin.peterson, stutzbach, naufraghi, petere |
2011-02-03 20:06:46 | pitrou | link | issue7111 messages |
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