msg69197 - (view) |
Author: Jesse Noller (jnoller) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-07-03 12:58 |
Per mail thread:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2008-June/080497.html
Attached is the patch to connection.py to drop the fqdn call.
Final suggestion from Trent:
> This is a common problem. Binding to '127.0.0.1' will bind to *only*
> that address;
Indeed.
> binding to "" will bind to *all* addresses the machine
> is known by.
Agreed again. I believe what we're dealing with here though is a lack
of clarity regarding what role the 'address' attribute exposed by
multiprocess.connection.Listener should play. The way
test_listener_client() is written, it effectively treats 'address' as an
end-point that can be connected to directly (irrespective of the
underlying family (i.e. AF_INET, AF_UNIX, AF_PIPE)).
I believe the problems we've run into stem from the fact that the API
doesn't provide any guarantees as to what 'address' represents. The
test suite assumes it always reflects a connectable end-point, which I
think is more than reasonable. Unfortunately, nothing stops us from
breaking this invariant by constructing the object as
Listener(family='AF_INET', address=('0.0.0.0', 0)).
How do I connect to an AF_INET Listener (i.e. SocketListener) instance
whose 'address' attribute reports '0.0.0.0' as the host? I can't.
So, for now, I think we should enforce this invariant by raising an
exception in Listener.__init__() if self._socket.getsockbyname()[0]
returns '0.0.0.0'. In effect, tightening up the API such that we can
guarantee Listener.address will always represent a connectable end-
point. We can look at how to service 'listen on all available
interfaces' semantics at a later date -- that adds far less value IMO
than being able to depend on the said guarantee.
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msg69682 - (view) |
Author: Jesse Noller (jnoller) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-07-15 13:52 |
The connection patch was applied r64961
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msg69701 - (view) |
Author: Jesse Noller (jnoller) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-07-15 18:30 |
I made a mistake and reverted r64961 - self._address is used pretty
heavily, and altering it the way outlined in the patch does not fix all
instances.
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msg70832 - (view) |
Author: Hirokazu Yamamoto (ocean-city) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-07 14:42 |
Hello. I also experienced test_multiprocessing hang on win2k and I
workarounded this by this adhok patch.
Index: Lib/multiprocessing/connection.py
===================================================================
--- Lib/multiprocessing/connection.py (revision 65551)
+++ Lib/multiprocessing/connection.py (working copy)
@@ -217,7 +217,12 @@
self._socket.listen(backlog)
address = self._socket.getsockname()
if type(address) is tuple:
- address = (socket.getfqdn(address[0]),) + address[1:]
+ def getfqdn(s): # ???
+ if s == '127.0.0.1':
+ return 'localhost'
+ else:
+ return socket.getfqdn(s)
+ address = (getfqdn(address[0]),) + address[1:]
self._address = address
self._family = family
self._last_accepted = None
I'm not familiar to socket, so probably this info is useless. ;-)
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msg70890 - (view) |
Author: Trent Nelson (trent) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-08 09:12 |
Jesse, thanks for capturing my e-mail thread in this issue. Can you
comment on my last three paragraphs? Essentially, I think we should
lock down the API and assert that Listener.address will always be
a 'connectable' end-point. (i.e. not a wildcard host, 0.0.0.0, that
can't be bound to by a socket, for example)
This would mean raising an exception in Listener.__init__ if this
invariant is violated.
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msg70892 - (view) |
Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-08 09:34 |
> This would mean raising an exception in Listener.__init__ if this
> invariant is violated.
If I understand the suggestion correctly, it would forbid people to
listen on 0.0.0.0. I'm not sure it is the right correction for the
problem. Listening on 0.0.0.0 can be handy when you are not sure which
address to use; it would be better to address the problem elsewhere.
IMO, the "FQDN removal patch" as uploaded by Jesse is simple and
straight-forward enough, provided it does fix the bug.
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msg70898 - (view) |
Author: Jesse Noller (jnoller) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-08 10:31 |
Unfortunately, the patch while simple, is too simple. The removal of the
_address attribute breaks a lot more than it fixes (it's heavily used
elsewhere)
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msg70903 - (view) |
Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-08 12:57 |
Selon Jesse Noller <report@bugs.python.org>:
>
> Unfortunately, the patch while simple, is too simple. The removal of the
> _address attribute breaks a lot more than it fixes (it's heavily used
> elsewhere)
I don't understand what you mean. The patch you uploaded doesn't remove the
_address attribute.
See http://bugs.python.org/file10801/connection.patch
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msg70904 - (view) |
Author: Jesse Noller (jnoller) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-08 13:03 |
> I don't understand what you mean. The patch you uploaded doesn't remove the
> _address attribute.
>
> See http://bugs.python.org/file10801/connection.patch
Hmm. Then that was a mistake on my part: it's entirely possible the
patch didn't apply cleanly. I'll circle back to this shortly and
re-apply/test.
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msg70906 - (view) |
Author: Jesse Noller (jnoller) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-08 14:28 |
Trent/Antoine - I'm stuck on the fence about this. Per trent's own
suggestion - removing the allowance for the 0.0.0.0 style address means
that the self._address is always a connectable end-point: this provides
clarity to the API.
However - to Antoine's point - using 0.0.0.0 to listen on "all
addresses" is actually pretty common, especially when working with
bigger servers (which generally have multiple cores). Using the 0.0.0.0
address makes it easy to say "listen everywhere" - where, in the case of
a Manager is actually very useful (you could have processes connecting
to a Manager on a machine from different networks).
Attached is a cleaned up diff of the removal of the fqdn call - this
should resolve the original problem while leaving the door open for the
ability to connect to the 0.0.0.0 "address".
I need someone with a windows machine (Hi Trent!) that exposed the
original problem to test the patch. Currently I'm favoring this rather
than locking out the 0.0.0.0 option.
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msg70928 - (view) |
Author: Hirokazu Yamamoto (ocean-city) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-09 10:41 |
I confirmed this patch works on my win2000.
And I believe it works on Trent's machine, too.
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2008-June/080525.html
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msg71017 - (view) |
Author: Jesse Noller (jnoller) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-11 14:29 |
I've removed the fqdn call per the patch as of r65641
Lowering this to an enhancement to consider the removal of the 0.0.0.0
functionality
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msg71033 - (view) |
Author: Trent Nelson (trent) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-11 19:57 |
I can confirm the patch works in Windows. Regarding the 0.0.0.0 issue,
perhaps we can compromise on something like this:
% svn diff connection.py
Index: connection.py
===================================================================
--- connection.py (revision 65645)
+++ connection.py (working copy)
@@ -217,6 +217,8 @@
self._socket.bind(address)
self._socket.listen(backlog)
self._address = self._socket.getsockname()
+ if self._address[0] == '0.0.0.0':
+ self._address[0] = '127.0.0.1'
self._family = family
self._last_accepted = None
That way, we still support binding on all addresses, and self._address
will always represent a connectable end-point. Thoughts?
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msg71034 - (view) |
Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-11 20:08 |
Le lundi 11 août 2008 à 19:58 +0000, Trent Nelson a écrit :
> + if self._address[0] == '0.0.0.0':
> + self._address[0] = '127.0.0.1'
Please no. If the user asks for 0.0.0.0, either obey or raise an
exception, but do not silently change the value.
My own humble opinion is that 0.0.0.0 should be allowed and, at worse,
the documentation may carry a warning about it.
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msg71045 - (view) |
Author: Trent Nelson (trent) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2008-08-12 06:31 |
I was thinking about this on the way home last night and concluded that
my last suggestion (s/0.0.0.0/127.0.0.1/) is a terrible one as well.
I'd be happy with a mention in the documentation (for now) stating that
if you listen on '0.0.0.0', Listener._address won't be a connectable
end-point (and you'll have to explicitly connect to 127.0.0.1, for
example).
As for the original issue, Jesse I'm +1 on your connection_v2.patch.
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msg85046 - (view) |
Author: Jesse Noller (jnoller) * ![Python committer (Python committer)](@@file/committer.png) |
Date: 2009-04-01 16:42 |
documented in r70960
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