msg66972 - (view) |
Author: Benjamin Peterson (benjamin.peterson) * |
Date: 2008-05-16 22:45 |
As the comment in descrobject.c says:
/* Why is this not included in Python.h? */
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msg67028 - (view) |
Author: Georg Brandl (georg.brandl) * |
Date: 2008-05-18 11:55 |
We could include it in Py3k.
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msg67062 - (view) |
Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * |
Date: 2008-05-19 14:43 |
Note that structmember.h pollutes global namespace with macros that do not
have conventional Py_ or PY_ prefix. READONLY and RESTRICTED macros seem
to be most likely to conflict with other code. I would be -0 on including tructmember.h in Python.h if flags macros are not properly renamed. +0
otherwise. T_* macros are probably OK, but T prefix is reminiscent of
popular (in some circles) Taligent naming conventions:
http://pcroot.cern.ch/TaligentDocs/TaligentOnline/DocumentRoot/1.0/Docs/bo
oks/WM/WM_63.html#HEADING77
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msg79242 - (view) |
Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * |
Date: 2009-01-06 09:54 |
Martin, do you want to make the call on this one?
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msg79244 - (view) |
Author: Martin v. Löwis (loewis) * |
Date: 2009-01-06 10:09 |
I agree with Alexander; the header shouldn't be included into Python.h
as-is.
I would propose to eliminate it eventually, with the following steps:
1. move PyMemberDef and the function declarations into object.h
2. (simultaneously) introduce properly-prefixed macros in object.h
3. deprecate structmember.h
4. remove it
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msg277971 - (view) |
Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * |
Date: 2016-10-03 18:05 |
I am attaching a patch that implements steps 1 and 2 of Martin's plan. There are over 50 files that include structmember.h. I am not sure it is worth the trouble to update all those files before structmember.h is actually removed. If we agree that this is the right way forward, I'll make the necessary changes to the docs.
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msg277973 - (view) |
Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * |
Date: 2016-10-03 18:11 |
I would also like this opportunity to rename T_PYSSIZET to something more readable: maybe PY_T_PY_SSIZE_T or PY_T_SSIZE_T.
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msg277976 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * |
Date: 2016-10-03 18:20 |
Please don't forget to use "hg copy" for creating object.h from structmember.h. This preserves the history.
structmember.h should be implemented using object.h. Include object.h and add aliases.
Only READONLY flag is used in 3.x (issue28349). Other flags can be removed.
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msg277982 - (view) |
Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * |
Date: 2016-10-03 18:33 |
As explained in #24065, READ_RESTRICTED, PY_WRITE_RESTRICTED and RESTRICTED flags were used for "restricted mode" in Python 2. I don't think we would want to preserve these as we move the rest to object.h.
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msg277985 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * |
Date: 2016-10-03 18:40 |
PY_T_PY_SSIZE_T is not much readable than PY_T_PYSSIZET. I think it can be just PY_T_SSIZE.
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msg277986 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * |
Date: 2016-10-03 18:41 |
And please don't miss to fix the documentation in 2.7 and 3.5-3.6.
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msg277988 - (view) |
Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * |
Date: 2016-10-03 18:50 |
Changed the title to reflect the way forward and added affected versions to remember to update the documentation. See #28349 and #24065 for details.
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msg278136 - (view) |
Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * |
Date: 2016-10-05 16:23 |
I am attaching a proposed doc patch for Python 3.5+. For 2.7 we should probably just add a versionchanged note explaining "restricted mode" has been deprecated in Python 2.3.
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msg342468 - (view) |
Author: Stéphane Wirtel (matrixise) * |
Date: 2019-05-14 14:35 |
I move this issue to master (3.8)
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msg370098 - (view) |
Author: Matthias Braun (Matthias Braun) * |
Date: 2020-05-27 15:44 |
This wasn't mentioned before: Having PyMemberDef part of the structmember.h is a big problem for users of PEP384/limited API, because structmember.h is not part of it.
Which results in the odd situation that `Py_tp_members` or `PyDescr_NewMember()` are part of the limited API but technically you cannot use it because you are not supposed to include headers that are not part of `Python.h`.
The proposed patch here, would fix this!
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msg370100 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2020-05-27 15:49 |
> The proposed patch here, would fix this!
The issue title is misleading, it says "Deprecate structmember.h". Is the plan still to deprecate it? Or to make it usable in the limited C API? Please update the title.
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msg370101 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2020-05-27 15:50 |
> Note that structmember.h pollutes global namespace with macros that do not have conventional Py_ or PY_ prefix. READONLY and RESTRICTED macros seem to be most likely to conflict with other code.
One small enhance would be to add such prefix when Py_LIMITED_API is defined.
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msg370104 - (view) |
Author: Matthias Braun (Matthias Braun) * |
Date: 2020-05-27 15:54 |
> The issue title is misleading, it says "Deprecate structmember.h". Is the plan still to deprecate it? Or to make it usable in the limited C API? Please update the title.
As far as I understand it: The attached diff, moves the interesting declaration to `object.h` solving the limited API problem. And only leaves structmember.h around for backward compatibility for people using the "old" names `READONLY` or `RESTRICTED`. So in that sense it does deprecate structmember.h
But indeed I hijacked this issue with my complaints about the limited API which may not have been the original intention here, but they get solved nonetheless.
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msg370106 - (view) |
Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * |
Date: 2020-05-27 15:59 |
Also, the bare minimum enhancement would be add rename READONLY to PY_READONLY, but keep a deprecated alias READONLY to PY_READONLY, and update CPython code base to use PY_READONLY. (Same for other similar flags.)
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msg370107 - (view) |
Author: Matthias Braun (Matthias Braun) * |
Date: 2020-05-27 16:02 |
Happy to take the proposed diff here (assuming @belopolsky wont mind) and include it into a pull request that also renames the uses of the READONLY flags (and maybe removes the RESTRICTED flags) within cpython source itself.
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msg370138 - (view) |
Author: Matthias Braun (Matthias Braun) * |
Date: 2020-05-27 21:29 |
While working on the pull request I felt that the type and constants better fit `descrobject.h` rather than `object.h`.
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