msg50742 - (view) |
Author: Chad Whitacre (whit537) |
Date: 2006-07-25 05:15 |
Python's $-style templating is wired for optional
case-insensitivity under the hood, but doesn't expose
this via the API. The attached patch (against trunk/
r50813) adds a new optional argument to turn this
behavior on, and includes doc and tests.
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msg50743 - (view) |
Author: Chad Whitacre (whit537) |
Date: 2006-07-26 19:50 |
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Warning: I've discovered that I introduced a bug. New patch
forthcoming.
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msg50744 - (view) |
Author: Chad Whitacre (whit537) |
Date: 2006-07-31 18:13 |
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I've replaced the patch with one that polishes off a few
bugs and ambiguities, with accompanying tests and doc.
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msg50745 - (view) |
Author: Chad Whitacre (whit537) |
Date: 2006-07-31 18:35 |
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(BTW, new patch is against trunk/ r51008)
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msg50746 - (view) |
Author: Georg Brandl (georg.brandl) * |
Date: 2006-07-31 22:32 |
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The patch looks very thorough and complete, I will try to
look into it after 2.5 is out.
Don't let that prevent you reviewing 5 patches, Chad ;-)
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msg50747 - (view) |
Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * |
Date: 2006-07-31 23:12 |
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Barry, is this something you want or is it at odds with the
notion of "simplified templating"?
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msg50748 - (view) |
Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * |
Date: 2006-08-01 03:56 |
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I'm not psyched about the patch. First, I've always thought
that case insensitivity ought to be handled by the mapping
from which the keys are being extracted and by setting the
idpattern. Second, I definitely don't like adding the
case_sensitive argument to substitute() and
safe_substitute(). Because it lives in the same namespace as
kws it makes for icky rules on resolving any conflicts.
Is there a reason why the existing mechanisms are insufficient?
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msg50749 - (view) |
Author: Chad Whitacre (whit537) |
Date: 2006-08-01 13:21 |
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Thanks for your responses, all.
> Is there a reason why the existing mechanisms are
> insufficient?
The problem is kws: you can't customize it from the outside
like you can the mapping argument. If we replaced _multimap
with mapping.update(kws), then we'd have our hook and I
think I'd be satisfied.
Would you be any more psyched about that patch? :)
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msg50750 - (view) |
Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * |
Date: 2006-08-01 13:24 |
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Yes, that would be much more acceptable!
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msg50751 - (view) |
Author: Chad Whitacre (whit537) |
Date: 2006-08-01 14:07 |
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Ok, here it is! I added a test but wasn't sure this
warranted a doc change. Cf.:
http://docs.python.org/dev/lib/node40.html
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msg50752 - (view) |
Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * |
Date: 2006-08-02 02:12 |
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Looks good to me. Remind us when we fork the trunk.
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msg50753 - (view) |
Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * |
Date: 2006-08-03 18:14 |
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The replacement of _multimap is a semantic change.
Formerly, a dictionary passed in as a positional argument is
left unmolested; now, it is mutated to reflect kwds. Also,
the _multimap setup is an O(1) step while the update()
approach is O(n). Also, the current implementation only
requires the positional argument to support __getitem__();
now, it requires a more fully compliant duck (one that
provides an .update() method).
- mapping = _multimap(kws, args[0])
+ mapping = args[0]
+ mapping.update(kws)
Current behavior:
>>> t = Template('the $speed brown')
>>> d = dict(speed='quick')
>>> t.safe_substitute(d, speed='slow')
'the slow brown'
>>> d
{'speed': 'quick'}
After the patch, it returns {'speed': 'slow'}.
Likewise the following now works, but would fail after the
patch:
>>> t = Template('the $speed brown')
>>> class D:
def __getitem__(self, key):
return 'quick'
>>> t.safe_substitute(D(), speed='slow')
'the slow brown'
The whole approach is misguided, and the use case itself is
suspect. If some change is warranted, consider a cleaner,
more general-purpose solution like having an optional key=
argument to the Template constructor for pre-processing keys:
>>> t = Template('the $speed brown', key=str.lower)
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msg50754 - (view) |
Author: Chad Whitacre (whit537) |
Date: 2006-08-03 23:52 |
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Raymond,
Thanks for the attention to detail. But could you help me
understand what it means that "the whole approach is
misguided, and the use case itself is suspect[?]" The
customization use case? The approach to customization via
the mapping argument?
In other words, I understood the mapping argument to already
be a customization mechanism; otherwise, the methods could
use kws only. So wouldn't a 'key' argument be *more*
complicated, introducing additional customization semantics
instead of working with what's already there?
My concern, though, is that by using _multimap instead of
update, we limit the customizations one may perform from the
outside. Why this limitation? Performance? Ok. So then it's
a matter of adjudicating a performance/feature trade-off?
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msg110492 - (view) |
Author: Mark Lawrence (BreamoreBoy) * |
Date: 2010-07-16 20:51 |
Anybody interested in this, if not I'll close it.
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msg110820 - (view) |
Author: Mark Lawrence (BreamoreBoy) * |
Date: 2010-07-19 22:27 |
Closing as noone has responded.
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msg169662 - (view) |
Author: R. David Murray (r.david.murray) * |
Date: 2012-09-01 18:59 |
I don't think this closure was appropriate. The idea was accepted twice and argued against once, so it isn't dead (it's just resting).
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msg264956 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) * |
Date: 2016-05-06 09:57 |
I seconded Raymond. Now the approach is argued against twice. And the patch itself is outdated. I suggest to close this issue. If somebody want to implement Raymond's idea, his can reopen this issue or open new issue.
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msg264978 - (view) |
Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * |
Date: 2016-05-06 15:19 |
Agreed with Serhiy. Raymond's approach is nicer, but I'm still not convinced about the use case. Closing.
If someone wants to run with this again, an updated patch would be needed, and the issue could be reopened, but I also suggest following through with Raymond's idea.
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2022-04-11 14:56:19 | admin | set | github: 43716 |
2016-05-06 15:19:22 | barry | set | status: open -> closed resolution: wont fix messages:
+ msg264978
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2016-05-06 09:57:50 | serhiy.storchaka | set | nosy:
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+ msg264956
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2014-02-03 19:09:14 | BreamoreBoy | set | nosy:
- BreamoreBoy
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2012-09-01 18:59:31 | r.david.murray | set | status: closed -> open
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+ Python 3.4, - Python 3.2 nosy:
+ r.david.murray
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+ msg169662 resolution: wont fix -> (no value) |
2010-07-19 22:27:47 | BreamoreBoy | set | status: pending -> closed resolution: wont fix messages:
+ msg110820
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2010-07-16 20:51:19 | BreamoreBoy | set | status: open -> pending versions:
+ Python 3.2, - Python 2.7 nosy:
+ BreamoreBoy
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+ msg110492
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2009-03-30 04:35:24 | ajaksu2 | set | stage: patch review type: enhancement versions:
+ Python 2.7, - Python 2.6 |
2006-07-25 05:15:58 | whit537 | create | |