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Author loewis
Recipients eric.araujo, janssen, l0nwlf, loewis, ronaldoussoren
Date 2010-06-23.18:38:57
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> Bit of a chicken/egg issue here.  Since we haven't had OS X buildbots
> for very long, and the ones we do have represent odd configurations,
> I think it's premature to say that "the port *doesn't* pass the test
> suite on a regular manner".

And I didn't mean that literally. Rather, I meant "the build slave that 
you are proposing to add to the stable list don't pass the test suite on 
a regular manner" - it's ultimately the individual slave (OS, compiler 
installation, buildbot version, network connectivity) that can be 
questioned for stability.

So that's not really a chicken-and-egg problem. If people keep working 
on the OSX port, they might ultimately arrive in a state where even the 
odd configurations become stable.

> I think it's just as reasonable to say
> that the developers making changes just aren't aware of bad
> side-effects on OS X.  A good way to remedy that would be to make
> those bad side-effects more apparent, for example by adding an OS X
> buildbot into the "stable" set.

I am not convinced that this is a good way. First, they are all 
volunteers, so they chose to do whatever they like to do. Then, even if 
they *are* willing to fix OSX problems, they might never look at the 
buildbot results. So any estimation of the effect that the proposed 
change might have is pure guessing.
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