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Title: Blank line inconsistency between InteractiveConsole and standard interpreter
Type: behavior Stage:
Components: Library (Lib) Versions: Python 3.10
process
Status: open Resolution: not a bug
Dependencies: Superseder:
Assigned To: Nosy List: Malcolm Smith, iritkatriel, tomviner
Priority: normal Keywords:

Created on 2017-08-13 21:12 by Malcolm Smith, last changed 2022-04-11 14:58 by admin.

Messages (5)
msg300230 - (view) Author: Malcolm Smith (Malcolm Smith) Date: 2017-08-13 21:12
The standard interpreter is more eager to give an error on incomplete input, while the InteractiveConsole will keep on prompting for more:

Python 3.5.3 (default, Apr 10 2017, 07:53:16)  [GCC 6.3.0 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> try:
...
  File "<stdin>", line 2

    ^
IndentationError: expected an indented block
>>> import code
>>> code.interact()
Python 3.5.3 (default, Apr 10 2017, 07:53:16)  [GCC 6.3.0 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
(InteractiveConsole)
>>> try:
...
...
...
...

The InteractiveConsole isn't totally wrong here, because after all, a blank line in this position is syntactically correct. But the inconsistency is confusing.
msg407369 - (view) Author: Irit Katriel (iritkatriel) * (Python committer) Date: 2021-11-30 12:14
I'm pretty sure both behaviours are by design.  Can you explain why this is a problem?
msg407446 - (view) Author: Malcolm Smith (Malcolm Smith) Date: 2021-12-01 12:12
I agree that both behaviors are reasonable. However, the InteractiveConsole documentation says it should "closely emulate the behavior of the interactive Python interpreter". Since people are familiar with the native interpreter, any difference in behavior is potentially annoying and could throw off somebody's flow. So I think the InteractiveConsole should be changed to match the native interpreter.

Like the native interpreter, InteractiveConsole allows other multi-line blocks to be terminated with a blank line:

>>> def foo(x):
...   pass
...
>>> for x in [1,2,3]:
...   pass
...
>>>


I guess the reason why "try" is different is that a "try" block isn't a complete statement on its own. If you follow it with an "except" block, then that can indeed be terminated with a blank line.
msg407454 - (view) Author: Irit Katriel (iritkatriel) * (Python committer) Date: 2021-12-01 12:54
> any difference in behavior is potentially annoying and could throw off somebody's flow. So I think the InteractiveConsole should be changed to match the native interpreter.


That would make InteractiveConsole more restrictive and break code that is currently working. It could also be annoying and throw off somebody's flow.
msg407464 - (view) Author: Malcolm Smith (Malcolm Smith) Date: 2021-12-01 16:06
I think it's unlikely that anyone is depending on the ability to enter blank lines in a "try" block in an InteractiveConsole, especially when blank lines terminate the input in almost every other context.

Conversely, everyone who's ever entered a multi-line statement into a Python console knows that blank lines usually terminate the input. And they may have gotten into the habit, as I did, of using a blank line to abandon an incomplete input, and they'll be surprised if it doesn't work in this context. 

On further experimentation, this also affects "def" statements, but only when the blank line is at the start of the block, causing the statement to be syntactically incomplete.

Native interpreter:

    >>> def f():
    ...
      File "<stdin>", line 2

        ^
    IndentationError: expected an indented block after function definition on line 1

InteractiveConsole:

    >>> def f():
    ...
    ...
    ...   pass
    ...
    >>>

So I think the current behavior is likely to annoy a much larger number of people, but whoever's responsible for this part of the standard library will have to judge that for themselves.
History
Date User Action Args
2022-04-11 14:58:50adminsetgithub: 75379
2021-12-01 16:37:57iritkatrielsetversions: - Python 3.5
2021-12-01 16:07:25Malcolm Smithsetversions: + Python 3.10
2021-12-01 16:06:23Malcolm Smithsetmessages: + msg407464
2021-12-01 12:54:05iritkatrielsetmessages: + msg407454
2021-12-01 12:12:41Malcolm Smithsetstatus: pending -> open

messages: + msg407446
2021-11-30 12:14:34iritkatrielsetstatus: open -> pending

nosy: + iritkatriel
messages: + msg407369

resolution: not a bug
2017-08-13 23:19:18tomvinersetnosy: + tomviner
2017-08-13 21:12:37Malcolm Smithcreate