Message88929
Potential Release Blocker
The default file encoding for 3.x file objects is the value of
locale.getpreferredencoding(). Currently, the locale module behavior on
OS X deviates from other python POSIX platforms in a few unexpected and
bad ways:
1. On OS X, locale.getpreferredencoding() returns "mac-roman", an
obsolete encoding from the old "Classic" MacOS days.
2. Unlike other POSIX platforms (at least Debian Linux), the values
returned by locale.getdefaultlocale() and locale.getpreferredencoding()
on OS X are not influenced by the settings of the POSIX locale
environment variables, i.e LANG. So, unlike on the other POSIX
platforms, one can't override the (obsolete) encoding without explicitly
setting the encoding argument to open().
Compare the results from Debian Linux:
$ unset LANG
$ python3.1
Python 3.1a1+ (py3k, Mar 23 2009, 00:12:12)
[GCC 4.3.3] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import locale
>>> locale.getpreferredencoding()
'ANSI_X3.4-1968'
>>> open('blah','r').encoding
'ANSI_X3.4-1968'
>>> locale.getlocale()
(None, None)
>>> locale.getdefaultlocale()
(None, None)
>>>
$ export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
$ python3.1
Python 3.1a1+ (py3k, Mar 23 2009, 00:12:12)
[GCC 4.3.3] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import locale
>>> locale.getpreferredencoding()
'UTF-8'
>>> open('blah','r').encoding
'UTF-8'
>>> locale.getlocale()
('en_US', 'UTF8')
>>> locale.getdefaultlocale()
('en_US', 'UTF8')
>>>
... to OS X:
$ unset LANG
$ python3.1
Python 3.1rc1+ (py3k, Jun 3 2009, 14:31:41)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5370)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import locale
>>> locale.getpreferredencoding()
'mac-roman'
>>> open('blah','r').encoding
'mac-roman'
>>> locale.getlocale()
(None, None)
>>> locale.getdefaultlocale()
(None, 'mac-roman')
>>>
$ export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
$ python3.1
Python 3.1rc1+ (py3k, Jun 3 2009, 14:31:41)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5370)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import locale
>>> locale.getpreferredencoding()
'mac-roman'
>>> open('blah','r').encoding
'mac-roman'
>>> locale.getlocale()
('en_US', 'UTF8')
>>> locale.getdefaultlocale()
(None, 'mac-roman')
>>>
A quick look at the code shows that part of the problem is in
Modules/_localemodule.c where there is a #if defined(__APPLE__) version
of PyLocale_getdefaultlocale which appears to have its origins in MacOS
and should probably just be removed and locale.py modified to
eliminate/minimize the special case mac/darwin code. For the case of no
locale, "UTF-8" would seem to be a reasonable default. In any case,
"mac-roman" is not. |
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2009-06-05 10:37:12 | ned.deily | set | recipients:
+ ned.deily, ronaldoussoren, benjamin.peterson |
2009-06-05 10:37:11 | ned.deily | set | messageid: <1244198231.29.0.333691708249.issue6202@psf.upfronthosting.co.za> |
2009-06-05 10:37:09 | ned.deily | link | issue6202 messages |
2009-06-05 10:37:06 | ned.deily | create | |
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