Author r.david.murray
Recipients Rhamphoryncus, benjamin.peterson, claymation, ezio.melotti, giampaolo.rodola, gregory.p.smith, gvanrossum, loewis, mattsmart, oubiwann, pitrou, pmoody, pnasrat, r.david.murray, shields
Date 2009-06-02.00:05:12
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In pre-CIDR days, assuming a prefixlen of 24 for a 192.168.x.x address
made sense.  Nowadays it is better not to make that assumption.  So I
find ipaddr's default of 32 to be "safer" than using a class based default.

The larger point, however, is that there _is_ a mask associated with the
address in ifconfig.  There _must_ be one.  So that is not an example
that shows that a separate address class is useful.

As for the == thing, I agreed with you that address compared to network,
if you had an address class, would yield false.  My point was that

    HypotheticalNetworkClass('') ==

should yield True, because, as I said above, in a CIDR world using a
default of a hostmask for an otherwise unadorned address makes the most

As for an example of when the equivalence is useful, it is useful every
time I set up an access rule or route that applies to a single host. 
Otherwise, I _must_ give a specific netmask, because in real life the
classfull default is often not the correct netmask.  Most networking
software that I've dealt with requires explicit netmasks (often with a
shorthand to specify an ip/hostmask pair).  It is true that when a
netmask isn't required it generally defaults to the classful netmask,
but having such a default is becoming more rare with time, in my
experience (because of CIDR).
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