Message61886
The problem still exists in 2.5.1.
The explanations given so far are not correct. With x.py as before (see
attached):
>>> import sys, gc, x
creating X('new')
creating X('old')
>>> del x,sys.modules['x']
deleting X('old')
>>> gc.collect()
deleting X('new')
6
which shows that the cycles in x module are resolvable by GC.
The problem is not that there are uncollectable objects but that GC is
ran on exit before x becomes dead.
>>> import sys, gc, x
creating X('new')
creating X('old')
>>> gc.set_debug(1)
>>> sys.exit()
gc: collecting generation 2...
gc: objects in each generation: 463 2034 0
gc: done.
deleting X('old')
Looking at the comments in Py_Finalize, it looks like GvR intended to
run GC after destroying the modules, but it led to problems:
(from svn blame Python/pythonrun.c)
32278 gvanrossum
9025 guido /* Destroy all modules */
8403 guido PyImport_Cleanup();
9025 guido
32278 gvanrossum /* Collect final garbage. This disposes of
cycles created by
34776 tim_one * new-style class definitions, for example.
34776 tim_one * XXX This is disabled because it caused too
many problems. If
34776 tim_one * XXX a __del__ or weakref callback triggers
here, Python code has
34776 tim_one * XXX a hard time running, because even the sys
module has been
34776 tim_one * XXX cleared out (sys.stdout is gone,
sys.excepthook is gone, etc).
34776 tim_one * XXX One symptom is a sequence of information-
free messages
34776 tim_one * XXX coming from threads (if a __del__ or
callback is invoked,
34776 tim_one * XXX other threads can execute too, and any
exception they encounter
34776 tim_one * XXX triggers a comedy of errors as subsystem
after subsystem
34776 tim_one * XXX fails to find what it *expects* to find
in sys to help report
34776 tim_one * XXX the exception and consequent unexpected
failures). I've also
34776 tim_one * XXX seen segfaults then, after adding print
statements to the
34776 tim_one * XXX Python code getting called.
34776 tim_one */
34776 tim_one #if 0
32278 gvanrossum PyGC_Collect();
34776 tim_one #endif
Commenting out PyGC_Collect() seems like a too radical solution because
no module referenced cycles get collected, not even those without
__del__.
I have not tried it yet, but it looks like a possible solution is to
call PyGC_Collect() at the end of _PyModule_Clear. |
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