On 08.01.2022 21:56, Erlend E. Aasland wrote:
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> Marc-André: since Python 3.6, the sqlite3.Cursor.lastrowid attribute does no longer comply with the recommendations of PEP 249:
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> Previously, lastrowid was set to None for operations other than INSERT or REPLACE. This changed with ab994ed8b97e1b0dac151ec827c857f5e7277565 (in Python 3.6), so that lastrowid is _unchanged_ for operations other than INSERT or REPLACE, and it is set to 0 after the first valid SQL (that is not INSERT/REPLACE) is executed on the cursor.
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> Now, PEP 249 only _recommends_ that lastrowid is set to None for operations that do not modify a row, so it's probably not a big deal. No-one has ever mentioned this change in behaviour; there have been no bug reports.
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> FTR, here is the relevant quote from PEP 249:
> 
>     If the operation does not set a rowid or if the database does not support
>     rowids, this attribute should be set to None.
> 
> (I interpret "should" as understood by RFC 2119.)

Well, it may be a little stronger than the SHOULD in the RFC, but then
again the whole DB-API is about conventions and if they don't make sense
for a database backend, it is possible to deviate from the spec, esp. for
optional extensions such as .lastrowid.

> So, my follow-up question becomes:
> I see no point in reverting to pre Python 3.6 behaviour. I would rather change the default value to be 0 (to get rid of the dirty flag in GH-30380), and to make the behaviour more consistent with how the actual SQLite API behaves.
> 
> 
> Do you have an opinion about such a change (in behaviour)?

Is 0 a valid row ID in SQLite ? If not, then I guess this would be
an alternative to None as suggested by the DB-API.

If it is a valid row ID, I'd suggest to go back to resetting to None,
since otherwise code might get confused: if an UPDATE does not get
applied (e.g. a condition is false), code could then still take
.lastrowid as referring to the UPDATE and not a previous
operation, since code will now know whether the condition was met
or not.
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Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com