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Author epaine
Recipients epaine, gpolo, obserience, pitrou, serhiy.storchaka
Date 2020-06-18.10:04:23
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> ... would break any code that puts the interpreter in a non-main thread
Have people not been warned enough?! But seriously, looking anywhere on Google will scream at you to stop using using threads with tkinter, let alone having the interpreter in a thread.

I am not sure I agree with your statement that we would be keeping the interpreter exits, as that was only a 'fallback' if a delete was attempted in a thread. However, I agree with you that we should avoid breaking existing code where possible and so such a change shouldn't be added.

As for uncommenting CHECK_TCL_APPARTMENT in Tkapp_Dealloc, I looked at the blame and found that it was added as a comment:
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/b5bfb9f38c786c3330b2d52d93b664588c42283dbecaus
I don't know the reason for adding it commented, but it is possible Martin couldn't find a situation in which it was required. My only problem with uncommenting it would be that I don't understand how the GC works. I suspect it would not be a problem, but if the error caused the GC to halt collecting, we would be in exactly the same situation (though I doubt this would be true).

> It should be done a bugfix regardless of anything else.
Agreed. Such a simple change to stop the interpreter crashing is definitely beneficial.

As for actually fixing the root of the problem, I suspect any of the changes you proposed, similar to mine, would be too controversial and not really go anywhere (being fairly large changes to fix just a handful of situations).
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