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Author jeremy.kloth
Recipients eric.snow, jeremy.kloth, jkloth, nanjekyejoannah, ncoghlan, vstinner
Date 2020-02-01.11:23:49
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> The problem is to make Py_INCREF/Py_DECREF efficient.

That is exactly why I didn't propose a change to them.  The singletons
still are refcounted as usual, just that their ob_refcnt is ignored.
If they somehow reach 0, they just "resurrect" themselves and ignore
the regular collection behavior.  In the presence of multiple
DECREF'ers, the ob_refcnt field is garbage, but that is OK as it is
effectively ignored.  Practicality vs Purity and all that.

> Last time someone tried to use an atomic variable for ob_refcnt, it was 20% slower if I recall correctly. If many threads start to update such atomic variable, the CPU cacheline of common singletons like None, True and False can quickly become a performance bottleneck.

Exactly so, hence why I chose the simple solution of effectively
ignoring ob_refcnt.

> On the other side, if each interpreter has its own objects, there is no need to protect ob_refcnt, the interpreter lock protects it.

My solution also does not need any protection around ob_refcnt.
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