Alright folks, sorry there's going to be a lot of pasted blocks of output, so just look for where I @ your name to address your questions.
@ned.deily, here is the output of those info commands.
```
➜ python3 -m test.pythoninfo
Python debug information
========================
CC.version: Apple LLVM version 10.0.1 (clang-1001.0.46.4)
Py_DEBUG: No (sys.gettotalrefcount() missing)
_decimal.__libmpdec_version__: 2.4.2
builtins.float.double_format: IEEE, little-endian
builtins.float.float_format: IEEE, little-endian
core_config[_disable_importlib]: 0
core_config[allocator]: None
core_config[argv]: ['-m']
core_config[base_exec_prefix]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..'
core_config[base_prefix]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..'
core_config[coerce_c_locale]: 0
core_config[coerce_c_locale_warn]: 0
core_config[dev_mode]: 0
core_config[dump_refs]: 0
core_config[exec_prefix]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..'
core_config[executable]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/python3'
core_config[faulthandler]: 0
core_config[hash_seed]: 0
core_config[home]: None
core_config[ignore_environment]: 0
core_config[import_time]: 0
core_config[install_signal_handlers]: 1
core_config[malloc_stats]: 0
core_config[module_search_path_env]: None
core_config[module_search_paths]: ['/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/../lib/python37.zip', '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/../lib/python3.7', '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/../lib/python3.7/lib-dynload']
core_config[prefix]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..'
core_config[program]: 'python3'
core_config[program_name]: 'python3'
core_config[show_alloc_count]: 0
core_config[show_ref_count]: 0
core_config[tracemalloc]: 0
core_config[use_hash_seed]: 0
core_config[utf8_mode]: 0
core_config[warnoptions]: []
core_config[xoptions]: []
datetime.datetime.now: 2019-06-25 10:50:02.453944
expat.EXPAT_VERSION: expat_2.2.6
global_config[Py_BytesWarningFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_DebugFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_DontWriteBytecodeFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_FileSystemDefaultEncodeErrors]: 'surrogateescape'
global_config[Py_FileSystemDefaultEncoding]: 'utf-8'
global_config[Py_FrozenFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_HasFileSystemDefaultEncoding]: 1
global_config[Py_HashRandomizationFlag]: 1
global_config[Py_IgnoreEnvironmentFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_InspectFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_InteractiveFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_IsolatedFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_NoSiteFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_NoUserSiteDirectory]: 0
global_config[Py_OptimizeFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_QuietFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_UTF8Mode]: 0
global_config[Py_UnbufferedStdioFlag]: 0
global_config[Py_VerboseFlag]: 0
locale.encoding: UTF-8
main_config[argv]: ['/usr/local/Cellar/python/3.7.3/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7/test/pythoninfo.py']
main_config[base_exec_prefix]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..'
main_config[base_prefix]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..'
main_config[exec_prefix]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..'
main_config[executable]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/python3'
main_config[install_signal_handlers]: 1
main_config[module_search_path]: ['/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester', '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/lib/python37.zip', '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/lib/python3.7', '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/lib/python3.7/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/Cellar/python/3.7.3/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7', '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/lib/python3.7/site-packages']
main_config[prefix]: '/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..'
main_config[warnoptions]: []
main_config[xoptions]: {}
os.cpu_count: 8
os.cwd: /Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester
os.environ[DISPLAY]: /private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.iXqE5VioqF/org.macosforge.xquartz:0
os.environ[HOME]: /Users/georgep
os.environ[LC_CTYPE]: en_US.UTF-8
os.environ[PATH]: /Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin:/Users/georgep/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.5.1/bin:/Users/georgep/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.5.1@global/bin:/Users/georgep/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.5.1/bin:/Users/georgep/bin:/Users/georgep/.jenv/shims:/Users/georgep/.jenv/bin:/Users/georgep/.jenv/shims:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin:/usr/local/munki:/opt/X11/bin:/Applications/Postgres.app/Contents/Versions/latest/bin:/Users/georgep/.rvm/bin
os.environ[SHELL]: /bin/zsh
os.environ[TERM]: xterm-256color
os.environ[TMPDIR]: /var/folders/sv/5gh4tk990539nzhdt311pg0h000_fp/T/
os.environ[VIRTUAL_ENV]: /Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv
os.gid: 20
os.groups: 20, 12, 61, 80, 33, 98, 100, 204, 250, 395, 398, 399
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os.login: georgep
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os.uid: 10710
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pymem.with_pymalloc: True
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resource.RLIMIT_RSS: (9223372036854775807, 9223372036854775807)
resource.RLIMIT_STACK: (8388608, 67104768)
resource.pagesize: 4096
socket.hostname: georgepmaclap.local
sqlite3.sqlite_version: 3.28.0
sqlite3.version: 2.6.0
ssl.HAS_SNI: True
ssl.OPENSSL_VERSION: OpenSSL 1.0.2s 28 May 2019
ssl.OPENSSL_VERSION_INFO: (1, 0, 2, 19, 15)
ssl.OP_ALL: 0x800003ff
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sys._framework: Python
sys.abiflags: m
sys.api_version: 1013
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sys.byteorder: little
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sys.executable: /Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/python3
sys.filesystem_encoding: utf-8/surrogateescape
sys.flags: sys.flags(debug=0, inspect=0, interactive=0, optimize=0, dont_write_bytecode=0, no_user_site=0, no_site=0, ignore_environment=0, verbose=0, bytes_warning=0, quiet=0, hash_randomization=1, isolated=0, dev_mode=False, utf8_mode=0)
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sys.platform: darwin
sys.prefix: /Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/bin/..
sys.stderr.encoding: UTF-8/backslashreplace
sys.stdin.encoding: UTF-8/strict
sys.stdout.encoding: UTF-8/strict
sys.thread_info: sys.thread_info(name='pthread', lock='mutex+cond', version=None)
sys.version: 3.7.3 (default, Mar 27 2019, 09:23:15) [Clang 10.0.1 (clang-1001.0.46.3)]
sys.version_info: sys.version_info(major=3, minor=7, micro=3, releaselevel='final', serial=0)
sysconfig[ABIFLAGS]: m
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sysconfig[CFLAGS]: -Wno-unused-result -Wsign-compare -Wunreachable-code -fno-common -dynamic -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O3 -Wall -isysroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.14.sdk -I/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.14.sdk/usr/include -I/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.14.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Headers
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sysconfig[PY_CFLAGS_NODIST]: -std=c99 -Wextra -Wno-unused-result -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror=implicit-function-declaration
sysconfig[PY_CORE_LDFLAGS]: -isysroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.14.sdk
sysconfig[PY_LDFLAGS]: -isysroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.14.sdk
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sysconfig[Py_DEBUG]: 0
sysconfig[Py_ENABLE_SHARED]: 0
sysconfig[SHELL]: /bin/sh
sysconfig[SOABI]: cpython-37m-darwin
sysconfig[prefix]: /usr/local/opt/python/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7
test_socket.HAVE_SOCKET_ALG: False
test_socket.HAVE_SOCKET_CAN: False
test_socket.HAVE_SOCKET_CAN_ISOTP: False
test_socket.HAVE_SOCKET_RDS: False
test_socket.HAVE_SOCKET_VSOCK: False
test_support.IPV6_ENABLED: True
test_support._is_gui_available: False
test_support.python_is_optimized: True
time.altzone: 18000
time.daylight: 1
time.get_clock_info(perf_counter): namespace(adjustable=False, implementation='mach_absolute_time()', monotonic=True, resolution=1e-09)
time.get_clock_info(time): namespace(adjustable=True, implementation='clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME)', monotonic=False, resolution=1.0000000000000002e-06)
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time.timezone: 21600
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tkinter.TCL_VERSION: 8.5
tkinter.TK_VERSION: 8.5
tkinter.info_patchlevel: 8.5.9
zlib.ZLIB_RUNTIME_VERSION: 1.2.11
zlib.ZLIB_VERSION: 1.2.11
➜ otool -L $(python3 -c 'import _tkinter;print(_tkinter.__file__)')
/Users/georgep/Documents/workspace/r-tester/venv/lib/python3.7/lib-dynload/_tkinter.cpython-37m-darwin.so:
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl (compatibility version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.9)
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk (compatibility version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.9)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1252.250.1)
```
@ terry.reedy, sorry to mislabel as a crash. IDLE itself just sorta died, so I interpreted it as an IDLE crash even though it's just an exception in the actual Python interpreter. Oops!
Addressing your questions here:
> Where did you get your Python installer? Did it include tck/tk? If not, perhaps python3.exe and the tcl/tk being used do not match.
Got the python installer via Homebrew.
It appears to include tck/tk. Not 100% sure but I'm guessing based on this line in the traceback that the python installation has TK
`File "/usr/local/Cellar/python/3.7.3/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7/tkinter/__init__.py",`
Here is the brew info:
```
➜ ~ brew info python
python: stable 3.7.3 (bottled), HEAD
Interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming language
https://www.python.org/
/usr/local/Cellar/python/3.7.3 (4,094 files, 62.5MB) *
Poured from bottle on 2019-04-19 at 14:02:45
From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/blob/master/Formula/python.rb
==> Dependencies
Build: pkg-config ✔
Required: gdbm ✔, openssl ✔, readline ✔, sqlite ✔, xz ✔
==> Options
--HEAD
Install HEAD version
==> Caveats
Python has been installed as
/usr/local/bin/python3
Unversioned symlinks `python`, `python-config`, `pip` etc. pointing to
`python3`, `python3-config`, `pip3` etc., respectively, have been installed into
/usr/local/opt/python/libexec/bin
If you need Homebrew's Python 2.7 run
brew install python@2
You can install Python packages with
pip3 install <package>
They will install into the site-package directory
/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages
See: https://docs.brew.sh/Homebrew-and-Python
==> Analytics
install: 347,669 (30 days), 1,285,928 (90 days), 4,302,103 (365 days)
install_on_request: 166,131 (30 days), 625,120 (90 days), 2,423,737 (365 days)
build_error: 0 (30 days)
```
> Does IDLE work at all? Can you click Help and About IDLE? If so, what is the tk version?
IDLE works otherwise, yes. It's just the scrolling bug that's causing any issue.
Python Version: 3.7.3
Tk version: 8.5.9
IDLE version: 3.7.3
> I used the pad to move the cursor over the scrollbar slider, held my left finger down on the left side of the pad, and moved the slider and file display with my right finger. Is this what you did?
I can break down the steps to reproduce on a more physical level
To really break down the steps to reproduce on a physical level:
STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
1. Open the IDLE application
* These steps work regardless of opening Idle 3.app via the finder GUI, or by running `python -m idlelib`
2. Before scrolling, do either of the following so IDLE receives the scroll
1. Focus on the IDLE application so it's the foreground app (you can do this by clicking on the IDLE app window). The cursor can be over the IDLE app, or outside of it. It doesn't matter since the app is focused.
2. OR, focus on a different application (IDLE is not foreground anymore) but have IDLE be visible still. Hover the cursor over IDLE. Take care not to click, which would bring IDLE back to the foreground.
3. Scroll. To scroll, do either of the following:
1. Scroll using the scrollwheel on a conventional external mouse.
2. Scroll using the touchpad on the Mac. Using two fingers, set them on the touchpad and slide both fingers vertically. A picture is worth a thousand words, so here is a video showing the motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9GDPsO730
4. The IDLE app will "crash" (close). If run from the command line, the UnicodeDecodeError exception will be shown.
@willingc
> What language and encoding are you using on your system? Are you using UTF-16?
I'm on UTF-8, here's some proof
```
➜ echo $LC_CTYPE
en_US.UTF-8
➜ echo $LANG
➜ locale charmap
UTF-8
➜ python -c "import sys; print(sys.stdout.encoding)"
UTF-8
```
And now finally, back to @Rakesh Singh and @ned.deily,
As given in the otool output above, TK is given as `/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk (compatibility version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.9)`
so what you're saying certainly makes sense.
I can try uninstalling and resintalling python with homebrew and if the problem persists, then is the issue on their end and their reliance on the default Apple TK?
I imagine then the bug would be on their plate. |
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