Author suic
Recipients AcostaJA, Alex.Willmer, Mariatta, asvetlov, dstufft, eric.araujo, ezio.melotti, koobs, larry, mrabarnett, ned.deily, paul.moore, ronaldoussoren, steve.dower, suic, tim.golden
Date 2018-09-20.09:24:37
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@Larry and Terry:

I want to stay out of this discussion or participation on Python development for the future as I've expressed it elsewhere (https://bugs.python.org/issue34660#msg325515). However, I want to address the unfair treatment of my person and what I consider to be a violation of CoC in the previous comment (https://bugs.python.org/issue34694#msg325802).

> We have been and will be attacked from extremists on both sides if consider changes on a case-by-case basis, accepting some and rejecting others.
> We have been and will be attacked from extremists on both sides for considering changes on a case-by-case basis, accepting some and rejecting others.

Labeling people as "extremists" without justification is _ad hominem_ and can be considered to be a personal attack. The term "extremism" has strong negative connotations and it's often related to "calling for violent action". The comment doesn't make clear neither 1) who or what group of people is meant to be extremist here nor 2) what was considered to be extremist. 

In general _ad hominem_ arguments and attacking someones reputation are not part of civil and rational argumentation/discourse. As far as I understand this isn't compliant with the Code of Conduct either. 

> Marko called our actions 'madness' and here called us 'irresponsible'.

I find this unfair and a misrepresentation of what I wrote:

> I find this behavior from the Python core developers and representatives simply irresponsible. (https://bugs.python.org/msg325499)

I explicitly referred to _behavior being irresponsible_ not the people. Even responsible people can have sometimes irresponsible decisions or behaviour. I also explained what I'd meant by "madness" (see here: https://bugs.python.org/issue34660#msg325503). And as I've already said elswhere:

> I can completely agree that I shouldn't/mustn't make sarcastic comments. (https://bugs.python.org/issue34660#msg325515)

I also agree with Larry that sarcasm isn't the best strategy :) However, silencing discussions like this "There will be no further discussion about this." (https://bugs.python.org/issue34694#msg325437) isn't a good strategy either. 

I don't want to be involved into further discussion and I politely ask you to not refer to me or labeling me.

Thank you,

Gabriel
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