Author Michael.Felt
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There are so many places where there are references to where 32-bit and 64-bit are referred to - and, in particular, the value of os.uname()[4]

For the discussion I went back to 32-bit Python on AIX

A)
michael@x071:[/data/prj/python/archive/Python-2.7.3]python
Python 2.7.3 (default, Sep 26 2013, 20:43:10) [C] on aix5
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import platform
>>> platform.platform()
'AIX-1-00C291F54C00-powerpc-32bit'
>>> import os
>>> os.uname()[4]
'00C291F54C00'
>>> import sys
>>> sys.maxsize
2147483647

B)
root@x066:~# python
Python 2.7.3 (default, Mar 14 2014, 12:37:29)
[GCC 4.6.3] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import platform
>>> platform.platform()
'Linux-3.2.0-4-powerpc64-ppc64-with-debian-7.8'
>>> import os
>>> os.uname()[4]
'ppc64'
>>> import sys
>>> sys.maxsize
2147483647
>>>

The data comes from the same hardware - just different OS.

re: os.uname()[4] and platform.platform()
for AIX os.uname()[4] says next to nothing - the only bit relavant to the "machine" are the letters C4 and those are likely to be found on any POWER 32 and 64-bit (no longer have direct access to 32-bit hardware so must trust the documentation on that one) - for AIX platform.platform() does give proper machine and interpreter size.

For Linux (debian in this case) os.uname()[4] identifies the hardware platform, and platform.platform() "looks" 64-bit to me, but sys.maxsize clearly shows this is 32-bit.

I am willing to work on a patch - even digging on the POWER Linux side as well - but to write a patch the desired output is needed.

And, I would suggest replacing the -m output with either -M or -p output:
michael@x071:[/data/prj/python/archive/Python-2.7.3]uname -m -M
00C291F54C00 IBM,8203-E4A
michael@x071:[/data/prj/python/archive/Python-2.7.3]uname -m -p
00C291F54C00 powerpc

Again - what is the preferred output. IMHO - platform.platform() comes very close for what I would be expecting.
AIX (noise) powerpc 32bit 
or
AIX (noise) powerpc 64bit

Comments? (and has this ever been discussed/specified in a PEP? In another discussion someone mentioned something about a wheel specification - but that refers back to distutils and IMHO this is "core" first, and distutils (should be) following)
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