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Author benjamin.peterson
Recipients Sergey.Kirpichev, benjamin.peterson, mark.dickinson, matrixise, paul.moore, r.david.murray, rhettinger, tim.peters
Date 2015-04-29.19:40:07
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2015, at 13:25, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote:
> 
> Sergey B Kirpichev added the comment:
> 
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 03:25:19PM +0000, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> > So, basically you need a base case for recursion? What's wrong with
> > explicitly writing that out?
> 
> Because it's complex (and costly).  This is not a trivial test and
> I don't see reasons to fix that is not broken.  And it will be difficult
> to explain for readers: remember, I need this exceptional case only in
> the world with a strange Python's convention (Python try to sort a list
> when it doesn't make sense).
> 
> Mathematical algorithm is not broken - programming language is.
> 
> Here is C:
> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob;f=stdlib/msort.c;#l45
> Here is Ruby:
> https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/array.c#L2454

I don't understand the analogy, since neither of these two have key
functions.

> 
> > It's practical if you have a broken key function and test it with a one
> > element list.
> 
> It's silly to test key function on a single-element list *only*.
> 
> > > BTW, why this issue was closed?
> > 
> > 3 of us agreed this doesn't seem like a suitable change.
> 
> And 1 seems to be ok with patch.  Is this just a question of
> number of votes?

I should also clarify that Raymond and Mark and responsible for
maintaining most of the algorithmic/data structure code in Python.

> 
> At least, please consider this as a documentation issue.  That ...
> feature may be obvious for a Python developer, but not for
> mathematician (as well as ordinary Python user).

This is probably impossible to prove either way.
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