Author ncoghlan
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Date 2013-12-20.01:52:46
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Test suites enable deprecation warnings by default, and many projects
have a "no warnings allowed" rule. By adding programmatic deprecation
warnings for the old APIs where there's no other way to it in a 3.3
compatible way, we make things more difficult for people that still
need to support 3.3. I'm OK with doing that when there's a concrete
payoff in significantly reducing our maintenance burden, eliminating
an attractive nuisance (I took that as far as removing
contextlib.nested entirely before coming up with ExitStack as a
replacement), or when there's a concrete benefit to the *user* in
migrating, but otherwise lean towards the "I want major Python
upgrades to be exciting, not annoying" school of thought most of the

And yes, I'm biased through working on package stuff - all of that
needs to straddle 2.6+ and 3.2+ due to platform support requirements,
and I want people to be free to work on metadata 2.0 rather than
figuring out how to avoid new deprecation warnings :)

Your updated list of suggested near-term deprecations sounds a lot
more reasonable to me - that stuff is all 3.3 specific, and the
packaging ecosystem hasn't really adjusted to those yet anyway (given
the heavy 2.6+ and 3.2+ bias). It was mostly the method deprecations
that bothered me, since providing the "lowest common denominator" APIs
is the easiest way to implement cross version compatible finders and
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