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Author ned.deily
Recipients benjamin.peterson, esc24, georg.brandl, ned.deily, python-dev, ronaldoussoren, samueljohn
Date 2013-10-19.21:20:56
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I guess the one remaining question about this issue is whether it should be backported to 2.7.x and/or 3.3.x. The implementation depends on the build changes implemented in Issue1584 to provide options to override default search paths for Tcl and Tk so that would have to be back ported as well.  IMO, the entire set of changes are fairly well isolated and should be low risk: basically, they are all build-related changes and mostly isolated to OS X.  The primary argument for backporting is that Tk support on current releases of OS X (from 10.6 Snow Leopard on) has been a major pain for our users, such that we have to keep recommending that they install a newer third-party Tcl/Tk to use IDLE or anything else Tkinter-based.  So that goes against the batteries-included mission of the python.org installer, especially since the third-party version (ActiveTcl) is not totally free and open source (although it is free as in beer for most uses).  On the other hand, one can argue that this is a new feature and thus prohibited in maintenance releases.  On the other other hand, one can argue that this is a change driven by changes (or lack thereof) in the underlying OS platform and *essentially* only changes the building of the python.org OS X installer, so it is similar in concept to any other third-party distributor of Python changing an underlying system library.  I would be OK with backporting or not but the decision needs to be made by the release managers.  Benjamin?  Georg?
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2013-10-19 21:20:56ned.deilysetrecipients: + ned.deily, georg.brandl, ronaldoussoren, benjamin.peterson, samueljohn, python-dev, esc24
2013-10-19 21:20:56ned.deilysetmessageid: <1382217656.2.0.316875099608.issue15663@psf.upfronthosting.co.za>
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