Author dmalcolm
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I'm in *both* camps: I like hash seed randomization fwiw.  I'm nervous
about enabling either of the approaches by default, but I can see myself
backporting both approaches into RHEL's ancient Python versions,
compiled in, disabled by default, but available at runtime via env vars
(assuming that no major flaws are discovered in my patch e.g.

I'm sorry if I'm muddying the waters by working on this approach.

Is the hash randomization approach ready to go, or is more work needed?
If the latter, is there a clear TODO list?
(for backporting to 2.*, presumably we'd want PyStringObject to be
randomized; I think this means that PyBytesObject needs to be randomized
also in 3.*; don't we need hash(b'foo') == hash('foo') ?).  Does the
patch needs to also randomize the hashes of the numeric types? (I think
not; that may break too much 3rd-party code (NumPy?)).

[If we're bikeshedding,  I prefer the term "salt" to "seed" in the hash
randomization approach: there's a per-process "hash salt", which is
either randomly generated, or comes from the environment, set to 0 to
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