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[Doc] How does one to about getting onto the "Other Graphical User Interface Packages" page? #89066

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PySimpleGUI mannequin opened this issue Aug 12, 2021 · 10 comments
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[Doc] How does one to about getting onto the "Other Graphical User Interface Packages" page? #89066

PySimpleGUI mannequin opened this issue Aug 12, 2021 · 10 comments
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PySimpleGUI mannequin commented Aug 12, 2021

BPO 44903
Nosy @terryjreedy, @ambv, @zware, @JulienPalard, @miss-islington, @PySimpleGUI, @quantumgc
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  • bpo-44903: Removed othergui.rst and list of GUI frameworks #27762
  • [3.9] bpo-44903: Removed othergui.rst and list of GUI frameworks (GH-27762) #27790
  • [3.10] bpo-44903: Removed othergui.rst and list of GUI frameworks (GH-27762) #27791
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title = '[Doc] How does one to about getting onto the "Other Graphical User Interface Packages" page?'
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    PySimpleGUI mannequin commented Aug 12, 2021

    Some time ago I noticed that the Python documentation has a list of GUI packages that are not part of the Python standard library.

    https://docs.python.org/3/library/othergui.html

    The title of the page I'm talking about says:
    Other Graphical User Interface Packages

    Major cross-platform (Windows, macOS, Unix-like) GUI toolkits are available for Python:

    What are the criteria for being listed? PySimpleGUI has more monthly installs than Kivy & WxPython. They're not due to being bundled with a Linux distribution.

    There is another page with a longer list:
    https://docs.python.org/3/faq/gui.html

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    zware commented Aug 12, 2021

    Frankly, we should probably just remove that page, or replace it with a generic "Many other GUI toolkits can be found on PyPI" message.

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    The direct answer is that you open an issue like you did, make an argument, as you did, and then submit a pull request. But we certainly do not need two redundant lists.

    The Othergui page has a link to
    https://wiki.python.org/moin/GuiProgramming
    which is not gated and where PySimpleGUI *is* listed.

    I think that coredev should get out of the business of maintaining curated GUI lists. I agree that the restricted Othergui page should be deleted (and any reference thereto removed) and think that the list on the faq should be replaced by a reference to the Wiki and to PyPI. Zach, can you prepare a PR?

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    zware commented Aug 12, 2021

    I don't have the bandwidth to do so at the moment, but am willing to review one :)

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    PySimpleGUI mannequin commented Aug 13, 2021

    Thank you Terry! I'm glad I got it right.

    I've been trying to keep the wiki page updated that you mentioned as best I can:
    https://wiki.python.org/moin/GuiProgramming

    I agree with the overall conclusion that the wiki is the place these lists should live.

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    quantumgc mannequin commented Aug 13, 2021

    I've submitted a PR making the changes suggested by Terry. Any
    feedback/suggestions on the PR would be highly appreciated.

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    ambv commented Aug 17, 2021

    New changeset 6a358bb by Gautam Chaudhuri in branch 'main':
    bpo-44903: Removed othergui.rst and list of GUI frameworks (GH-27762)
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    New changeset f6bd1ca by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.10':
    bpo-44903: Removed othergui.rst and list of GUI frameworks (GH-27762)
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    ambv commented Aug 17, 2021

    New changeset e21b66b by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.9':
    bpo-44903: Removed othergui.rst and list of GUI frameworks (GH-27762) (GH-27790)
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    ambv commented Aug 17, 2021

    Thanks all! ✨ 🍰 ✨

    CPython docs are now out of the business of curating lists of GUI frameworks.

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