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setlocale error message is confusing #47317

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vincentchute mannequin opened this issue Jun 9, 2008 · 27 comments
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setlocale error message is confusing #47317

vincentchute mannequin opened this issue Jun 9, 2008 · 27 comments
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vincentchute mannequin commented Jun 9, 2008

BPO 3067
Nosy @malemburg, @loewis, @terryjreedy, @vstinner, @ezio-melotti, @merwok, @skrah, @akheron
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    closed_at = <Date 2011-11-05.08:28:25.795>
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    labels = ['easy', 'type-bug', 'docs']
    title = 'setlocale error message is confusing'
    updated_at = <Date 2011-11-05.08:28:25.793>
    user = 'https://bugs.python.org/vincentchute'

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    vincentchute mannequin commented Jun 9, 2008

    import locale
    locale.setlocale( locale.LC_ALL, u'ja_JP.utf8')
    Traceback (most recent call last):
      File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
      File "/usr/lib/python2.5/locale.py", line 475, in setlocale
        locale = normalize(_build_localename(locale))
      File "/usr/lib/python2.5/locale.py", line 383, in _build_localename
        language, encoding = localetuple
    ValueError: too many values to unpack

    The problem is line 473:
    if locale and type(locale) is not type(""):

    Replacing this with
    if locale and not isinstance(locale, basestring):
    fixes the problem.

    @vincentchute vincentchute mannequin added the stdlib Python modules in the Lib dir label Jun 9, 2008
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    vincentchute mannequin commented Jun 9, 2008

    I have confirmed this exists on trunk

    http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/Lib/locale.py?rev=63824&view=markup

    (63824 is the latest)
    where the line in question is now 475

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    FWIW the type("") is gone in Py3, now it is:
    "if locale and not isinstance(locale, _builtin_str):"
    where "from builtins import str as _builtin_str"
    (http://svn.python.org/view/python/branches/py3k/Lib/locale.py?view=markup)

    However Py3.0 now raises the same error when the second arg is a byte
    string:
    >>> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, b'ja_JP.utf8')
    Traceback (most recent call last):
      File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
      File "C:\Programs\Python30\lib\locale.py", line 500, in setlocale
        locale = normalize(_build_localename(locale))
      File "C:\Programs\Python30\lib\locale.py", line 408, in _build_localename
        language, encoding = localetuple
    ValueError: too many values to unpack

    On Py3, locale.setlocale() should allow only unicode strings and reject
    byte strings.

    @ezio-melotti ezio-melotti changed the title setlocale Tracebacks on unicode locale strings setlocale fails with unicode strings on Py2 and with byte strings on Py3 Feb 20, 2009
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    The docs say that the locale arg should be None, tuple, or string, so I take that to mean that Unicode should be OK for 2.x, and that would help porting to 3.x. If bytes are rejected in 3.x, there should be TypeError raised, not ValueError, as is still the case in 3.1.2.

    @terryjreedy terryjreedy added easy type-bug An unexpected behavior, bug, or error labels Aug 3, 2010
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    After more thought and investigation, I have changed my opinions on this issue.

    Allowing unicode string for locale in 2.7:
    Since the module predates unicode strings (it is in 1.5) and since the locale string is passed to a C function, 'string' in the doc can just as well be taken to mean ascii byte string only, as the code requires. As far as I know, unicode is never needed. Allowing such could be considered a feature addition, which is not allowed for 2.7. So I would reject the OP's request (and have hence changed the title).

    Expected failure cases could be added to test_locale.py.

    Options for locale name:
    As I remember, multiple assignments in 1.5, as in

    def _build_localename(localetuple):
        language, encoding = localetuple

    required a tuple on the right and was called 'tuple unpacking'.
    Now, any iterable producing 2 items works; Rather than change to code to check that 'localetuple' really is a tuple (which could break code and the principle of duck-typing), I think the doc should be updated to

    "If locale is specified, it may be a None, a string, or an iterable producing two strings, language code and encoding."

    This is not a feature addition but a recognition of a new feature added versions ago. The parameter name in the private function should then be shortened to just 'locale'.

    Test cases with non-tuples could be added if not present now.

    Exception message:
    The current message arises from setlocale assuming that a 'locale' that is neither None or a string is a valid iterable for a call to _build_localename. A strings of the wrong type produces too many items and hence the obscure message.

    Python is known to be inconsistent in its usage of ValueError versus TypeError for builtin function args. Guido has said to leave inconsistencies rather than break code. So I retract the ValueError to TypeError suggestion.

    The accompanying messages, however, can be improved. The lines above that fails could be wrapped with
    try:
    language, encoding = locale
    except ValueError:
    raise ValueError("Locale must be None, a string, or an iterable of two strings -- language code, encoding -- not {}".format(locale))

    The scope of the wrapper could be extended to the entire function so that failure of
    return language + '.' + encoding
    would also be caught. Failure would happen if locale produced 2 non-strings items, so that the double assignment 'worked', but the string concatenation failed.

    A complication: the doc says
    "exception locale.Error
    Exception raised when setlocale() fails.

    locale.setlocale(category, locale=None) 
    ...If the modification of the locale fails, the exception Error is raised."

    So it seems that either a) the wrapper above should raise Error instead, or the doc could more clearly say "Exception raised when the locale passed to setlocale is not recognized."

    @terryjreedy terryjreedy changed the title setlocale fails with unicode strings on Py2 and with byte strings on Py3 setlocale error message is confusing Jun 18, 2011
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    vincentchute mannequin commented Jun 20, 2011

    "Since the module predates unicode strings (it is in 1.5) and since the locale string is passed to a C function, 'string' in the doc can just as well be taken to mean ascii byte string only, as the code requires."

    My only comment is that generally it doesn't seem reasonable to me that developer should need to investigate the history and implementation of a function in order to understand the documentation correctly.

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    On Py3, locale.setlocale() should allow only unicode strings
    and reject byte strings.

    I agree and it is the current behaviour (of Python 3.3). I don't see any use case of a byte strings in locale.setlocale() with Python 3.3, so I remove Python 3 from the versions of this issue.

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    python-dev mannequin commented Jun 20, 2011

    New changeset d370d609d09b by Victor Stinner in branch '2.7':
    Close bpo-3067: locale.setlocale() accepts a Unicode locale.
    http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d370d609d09b

    @python-dev python-dev mannequin closed this as completed Jun 20, 2011
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    I fixed locale.setlocale() of Python 2.7 to accept Unicode string because it helps porting to Python 3...

    But I think that the commit is just useless because we will have to wait until Python 2.7.3 is released, and if you want to support older Python versions, we will have to encode the locale explicitly to ASCII.

    Anyway, you should move to Python 3 (3.2 or later if possible) if you want a better Unicode support.

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    Victor, the issue for 3.x, which remains, is to improve the error message. I also suggested a doc change, though I would like Mark or Martin's comments before I would make it.

    But I think that the commit is just useless because we will have to wait until Python 2.7.3 is released, and if you want to support older Python versions, we will have to encode the locale explicitly to ASCII.

    Exactly. 'Older versions' includes older versions of 2.7. This is why I suggested that making the change to 2.7 would be a feature addition, which is not permitted for the very reason you give. I think the commit should be reverted.

    Certainly, when a another developer says "This patch should be rejected and not committed' after careful review, you should discuss, possibly on pydev, before committing.

    @terryjreedy terryjreedy reopened this Jun 20, 2011
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    python-dev mannequin commented Jun 20, 2011

    New changeset e72a2a60316f by Victor Stinner in branch '2.7':
    Revert d370d609d09b as requested by Terry Jan Reedy:
    http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e72a2a60316f

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    nailor mannequin commented Oct 18, 2011

    Added a patch that implements two things:

    setlocale now raises locale.Error('Locale must be None, a string, or an iterable of two strings -- language code, encoding.'). I decided to remove the proposed .format(locale), as it wasa a bit confusing when passing a tuple containing invalid items.

    I also added two tests, one for bytes and another for a tuple of two bytes.

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    merwok commented Oct 18, 2011

    Thanks for the patch. Exception messages are considered implementation details, so I would not test them. Testing that an exception is raised is good enough IMO.

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    nailor mannequin commented Oct 18, 2011

    I modified the patch not to contain the tests against exception messages

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    loewis mannequin commented Oct 18, 2011

    I think the reported exception type is incorrect. Given that the error message is 'Locale must be None, a string, or an iterable of two strings -- language code, encoding.', it very much sounds like a TypeError is being reported here.

    So I think all that's needed is that the ValueError is converted into a TypeError.

    Also notice that the tuple unpacking may actually succeed:

    py> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,u"en")
    Traceback (most recent call last):
      File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
      File "/usr/lib/python2.6/locale.py", line 513, in setlocale
        return _setlocale(category, locale)
    locale.Error: unsupported locale setting

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    nailor mannequin commented Oct 18, 2011

    Maybe we should return TypeError with the same message then? That would require some modification of documentation though, as it states: "If the modification of the locale fails, the exception Error is raised.".

    I don't really understand the "locale unpacking may actually succeed". Isn't that what supposed to happen, to my knowledge "en" is not a valid locale and that's a totally different issue? If I'm wrong, please correct, I've just started wandering in to Python Core development :)

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    loewis mannequin commented Oct 18, 2011

    Maybe we should return TypeError with the same message then? That
    would require some modification of documentation though, as it
    states: "If the modification of the locale fails, the exception Error
    is raised.".

    No, any operation can report TypeError and ValueError without explicit
    mentioning in the documentation. Saying that the parameters should be
    this and that implies that if they are different, you get a TypeError
    or ValueError.

    I don't really understand the "locale unpacking may actually
    succeed". Isn't that what supposed to happen, to my knowledge "en" is
    not a valid locale and that's a totally different issue?

    See my example again:

    py> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,u"en")
    Traceback (most recent call last):
      File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
      File "/usr/lib/python2.6/locale.py", line 513, in setlocale
        return _setlocale(category, locale)
    locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
    py> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,u"eng")
    Traceback (most recent call last):
      File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
      File "/usr/lib/python2.6/locale.py", line 512, in setlocale
        locale = normalize(_build_localename(locale))
      File "/usr/lib/python2.6/locale.py", line 420, in _build_localename
        language, encoding = localetuple
    ValueError: too many values to unpack

    So for u"eng" you get the ValueError. For u"en", you get past that
    point, and then get a locale.Error. These are both Unicode strings,
    but the outcome is quite different (and still would be different
    under your patch).

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    nailor mannequin commented Oct 18, 2011

    Thanks for clarification! I see the problem now. So if I get this correctly we should change the _build_localename to raise TypeError? If the given locale is in wrong format, we'll get TypeError, but if it's valid type but otherwise invalid locale (like 'en'), we'll get ValueError (or more specifically locale.Error).

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    loewis mannequin commented Oct 18, 2011

    Thanks for clarification! I see the problem now. So if I get this
    correctly we should change the _build_localename to raise TypeError?

    Yes, that's what I'm proposing.

    If the given locale is in wrong format, we'll get TypeError, but if
    it's valid type but otherwise invalid locale (like 'en'), we'll get
    ValueError (or more specifically locale.Error).

    Ideally, yes. Notice that it will be difficult to produce a TypeError
    for u"en", unless you explicitly test for Unicode objects.

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    nailor mannequin commented Oct 18, 2011

    Uploaded a new patch that raises TypeError

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    python-dev mannequin commented Nov 4, 2011

    New changeset 931ae170e51c by Petri Lehtinen in branch '3.2':
    Issue bpo-3067: Fix the error raised by locale.setlocale()
    http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/931ae170e51c

    New changeset d90d88380aca by Petri Lehtinen in branch 'default':
    Issue bpo-3067: Fix the error raised by locale.setlocale()
    http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d90d88380aca

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    akheron commented Nov 4, 2011

    Terry: Do you still think there's need for a doc update?

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    Yes. I think in locale.rst (assuming that is the name)
    '''
    exception locale.Error
    Exception raised when setlocale() fails.

    locale.setlocale(category, locale=None) 
    If *locale* is specified, it may be a string, a tuple of the form (language code, encoding), or None. If it is a tuple, it is converted to a string using the locale aliasing engine.
    '''
    should be changed to
    '''
    exception locale.Error 
    Exception raised when the locale passed to setlocale() is not recognized.
    
    locale.setlocale(category, locale=None) 
    If *locale* is specified, it may be a None, a string, or an iterable of two strings, language code and encoding. String pairs are converted to a single string using the locale aliasing engine.
    '''
    where language code and encoding are gray shaded as they are now.

    @terryjreedy terryjreedy added docs Documentation in the Doc dir and removed stdlib Python modules in the Lib dir topic-unicode labels Nov 5, 2011
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    akheron commented Nov 5, 2011

    If *locale* is specified, it may be a None, a string, or an iterable of two strings, language code and encoding. String pairs are converted to a single string using the locale aliasing engine.

    What about the possible None value then? Do you think that mentions to
    it be dropped?

    I don't think so, because setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, None) is an
    explicit way of saying "Return me the current value", especially
    because the function's name is SETlocale, which doesn't make it
    explicit.

    If None is not dropped, the ", language code and encoding" should
    maybe be in parentheses insteead: "to strings (language code and
    encoding), or None..."

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    Yes, parentheses would be better.

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    python-dev mannequin commented Nov 5, 2011

    New changeset 34c9465f5023 by Petri Lehtinen in branch '2.7':
    Issue bpo-3067: Enhance the documentation and docstring of locale.setlocale()
    http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/34c9465f5023

    New changeset 98806dd03506 by Petri Lehtinen in branch '3.2':
    Issue bpo-3067: Enhance the documentation and docstring of locale.setlocale()
    http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/98806dd03506

    New changeset 8a27920efffe by Petri Lehtinen in branch 'default':
    Issue bpo-3067: Enhance the documentation and docstring of locale.setlocale()
    http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8a27920efffe

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    akheron commented Nov 5, 2011

    I decided to restructure the documentation of setlocale() a bit and I think it's better now overall. It includes Terry's suggestions.

    I think this issue can now be closed. Thanks for the report and patches!

    @akheron akheron closed this as completed Nov 5, 2011
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