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subprocess.DEVNULL #50120

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MrJean1 mannequin opened this issue Apr 28, 2009 · 9 comments
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subprocess.DEVNULL #50120

MrJean1 mannequin opened this issue Apr 28, 2009 · 9 comments
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MrJean1 mannequin commented Apr 28, 2009

BPO 5870
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    closed_at = <Date 2011-03-16.17:38:53.804>
    created_at = <Date 2009-04-28.19:24:02.743>
    labels = ['extension-modules', 'type-feature']
    title = 'subprocess.DEVNULL'
    updated_at = <Date 2011-03-16.17:38:53.803>
    user = 'https://bugs.python.org/MrJean1'

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    activity = <Date 2011-03-16.17:38:53.803>
    actor = 'rosslagerwall'
    assignee = 'rosslagerwall'
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    closed_date = <Date 2011-03-16.17:38:53.804>
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    components = ['Extension Modules']
    creation = <Date 2009-04-28.19:24:02.743>
    creator = 'MrJean1'
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    issue_num = 5870
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    url = 'https://bugs.python.org/issue5870'
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    MrJean1 mannequin commented Apr 28, 2009

    The subprocess module exposes the PIPE and STDOUT constants to be used
    for the stdin, stdout or stderr keyword arguments.

    Often, stderr needs to be redirected to /dev/null (on posix). It would
    nice if another constant was available for that purpose, e.g.
    subprocess.DEVNULL.

    Perhaps, that might be as simple as

    DEVNULL = os.open(os.devnull, os.OS_RDWR)

    and re-use the same, single file descriptor.

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    MrJean1 mannequin commented Apr 28, 2009

    Typo. That should be ..., os.O_RDWR)

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    lucaspmelo mannequin commented Jul 12, 2009

    -1 on this one.
    It is not a portable decision (only *nix OSes do have /dev/null).
    Also, why would we want it as a default constant? The subprocess module
    would need to open /dev/null every time. Despite that, I can't see how
    would someone use the redirection of errors to /dev/null through a
    python script and, at the same time, make it seem not a bad practice at all.

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    pitrou commented Jul 12, 2009

    Lucas, Windows has a /dev/null-like device. I think Jean's suggestion is
    reasonable, but it should be a special constant instead of creating a
    file descriptor unconditionnally (that is, the file should only be open
    if needed). Also, a patch should be provided (with tests :-)).

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    rosslagerwall mannequin commented Jan 2, 2011

    Here is a fairly simple patch that adds the subprocess.DEVNULL constant.

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    Hmm, we don't like these open-for-eternity file descriptors; we had such a thing for os.urandom() but removed it (see bpo-1177468).

    I'm okay with DEVNULL (or even just NULL) as a shorthand, but it should open (and close) the devnull device each time just as if a normal fd was given.

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    rosslagerwall mannequin commented Jan 2, 2011

    I think if you look closely at the patch, the fd does not stay open the whole time. It is opened if necessary in _get_handles() with e.g.:

    elif stdin == DEVNULL:
    p2cread = self._get_devnull()

    and then closed in _execute_child() with:

    if hasattr(self, '_devnull'):
        os.close(self._devnull)

    which is executed from __init__(). So I don't think it stays open for eternity :-)

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    Right, sorry then :)

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    python-dev mannequin commented Mar 16, 2011

    New changeset eaf93e156dff by Ross Lagerwall in branch 'default':
    Issue bpo-5870: Add subprocess.DEVNULL constant.
    http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/eaf93e156dff

    @rosslagerwall rosslagerwall mannequin closed this as completed Mar 16, 2011
    @rosslagerwall rosslagerwall mannequin assigned rosslagerwall and unassigned gpshead Mar 16, 2011
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