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Title: Preferring MSVC 2017 in Python 3.6.x new minor releases
Type: enhancement Stage: resolved
Components: Distutils, Windows Versions: Python 3.6
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Status: closed Resolution: out of date
Dependencies: Superseder:
Assigned To: steve.dower Nosy List: dstufft, eric.araujo, ned.deily, paul.moore, steve.dower, tim.golden, xoviat, zach.ware
Priority: normal Keywords:

Created on 2017-09-26 18:07 by xoviat, last changed 2017-09-26 23:10 by xoviat. This issue is now closed.

Messages (4)
msg303057 - (view) Author: xoviat (xoviat) Date: 2017-09-26 18:07
MSVC 2017 retains ABI compatibility with MSVC 2015, yet supports (as always with a newer compiler version) more features and compiles faster. Because it retains ABI compatibility with existing Python versions, I think it makes sense for distutils to prefer it (this could be fixed in setuptools, but distutils generally takes care of compiler detection).

Thoughts?
msg303060 - (view) Author: Zachary Ware (zach.ware) * (Python committer) Date: 2017-09-26 18:41
3.5 is in security-fix-only mode, so it will not receive such an update.  3.6 is up to Ned and Steve.
msg303068 - (view) Author: Steve Dower (steve.dower) * (Python committer) Date: 2017-09-26 19:32
Let me hop in my time machine and fix that for you: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/3425

(FWIW, I think it makes *much* more sense for setuptools to fix this by simply forking all of distutils and never looking back. But since we don't live in that world yet, it went into distutils.)
msg303082 - (view) Author: xoviat (xoviat) Date: 2017-09-26 23:10
@zooba

Since you mention it, I agree with that proposal. But currently we have core developers contributing to distutils and @jaraco contributing to setuptools. @jaraco is quite competent, but I doubt that he would be able to maintain an independent fork of distutils by himself.

In short, I think your proposal is a good one, but how can we allocate manpower?
History
Date User Action Args
2017-09-26 23:10:16xoviatsetmessages: + msg303082
2017-09-26 19:33:15steve.dowersetstatus: open -> closed
resolution: out of date
stage: resolved
2017-09-26 19:32:58steve.dowersetmessages: + msg303068
2017-09-26 18:41:52zach.waresetassignee: steve.dower

components: + Windows
title: Preferring MSVC 2017 in Python 3.5.x and 3.6.x new minor releases -> Preferring MSVC 2017 in Python 3.6.x new minor releases
nosy: + ned.deily, paul.moore, tim.golden, zach.ware, steve.dower
versions: + Python 3.6
messages: + msg303060
2017-09-26 18:07:03xoviatcreate