msg226575 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2014-09-08 12:22 |
In some cases standard re module and third-party regex modules raise exceptions with different error messages.
1. re.match(re.compile('.'), 'A', re.I)
re: Cannot process flags argument with a compiled pattern
regex: can't process flags argument with a compiled pattern
2. re.compile('(?P<foo_123')
re: unterminated name
regex: missing >
3. re.compile('(?P<foo_123>a)(?P=foo_123')
re: unterminated name
regex: missing )
4. regex.sub('(?P<a>x)', r'\g<a', 'xx')
re: unterminated group name
regex: missing >
5. re.sub('(?P<a>x)', r'\g<', 'xx')
re: unterminated group name
regex: bad group name
6. re.sub('(?P<a>x)', r'\g<a a>', 'xx')
re: bad character in group name
regex: bad group name
7. re.sub('(?P<a>x)', r'\g<-1>', 'xx')
re: negative group number
regex: bad group name
8. re.compile('(?P<foo_123>a)(?P=!)')
re: bad character in backref group name '!'
regex: bad group name
9. re.sub('(?P<a>x)', r'\g', 'xx')
re: missing group name
regex: missing <
10. re.compile('a\\')
re.sub('x', '\\', 'x')
re: bogus escape (end of line)
regex: bad escape
11. re.compile(r'\1')
re: bogus escape: '\1'
regex: unknown group
12. re.compile('[a-')
re: unexpected end of regular expression
regex: bad set
13. re.sub(b'.', 'b', b'c')
re: expected bytes, bytearray, or an object with the buffer interface, str found
regex: expected bytes instance, str found
14. re.compile(r'\w', re.UNICODE | re.ASCII)
re: ASCII and UNICODE flags are incompatible
regex: ASCII, LOCALE and UNICODE flags are mutually incompatible
15. re.compile('(abc')
re: unbalanced parenthesis
regex: missing )
16. re.compile('abc)')
re: unbalanced parenthesis
regex: trailing characters in pattern
17. re.compile(r'((.)\1+)')
re: cannot refer to open group
regex: can't refer to an open group
Looks as in one case re messages are better, and in other cases regex messages are better. In any case it would be good to unify error messages in both modules.
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msg226576 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2014-09-08 12:32 |
18. re.compile(r'.???')
re: multiple repeat
regex: nothing to repeat at position 3
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msg226599 - (view) |
Author: Steven D'Aprano (steven.daprano) *  |
Date: 2014-09-08 19:30 |
I'm dubious about this issue. It suggests that the wording of the exceptions is part of the API of the two modules.
If the idea is just to copy the best error messages from one module to the other, then I guess there is no harm. But if the idea is to guarantee to keep the two modules' messages in sync, then I think it is unnecessary and harmful.
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msg226635 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2014-09-09 14:15 |
Yes, the idea of this issue is to enhance the re module (and the regex module if Matthew will) be picking the best error messages (or writing a new one).
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msg226641 - (view) |
Author: Matthew Barnett (mrabarnett) *  |
Date: 2014-09-09 16:08 |
> re: Cannot process flags argument with a compiled pattern
> regex: can't process flags argument with a compiled pattern
Error messages usually start with a lowercase letter, and I think that all the other ones in the re module do.
By the way, which is preferred, "cannot" or "can't"? The regex module always uses "can't", but re module uses "cannot" except for "TypeError: can't use a bytes pattern on a string-like object", I think.
Also, you said that one of the re module's messages was better, but didn't say which! Did you mean this one?
> re: expected bytes, bytearray, or an object with the buffer interface, str found
> regex: expected bytes instance, str found
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msg226790 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2014-09-11 17:16 |
> By the way, which is preferred, "cannot" or "can't"? The regex module always
> uses "can't", but re module uses "cannot" except for "TypeError: can't use
> a bytes pattern on a string-like object", I think.
It's interesting question. Grepping in CPython sources got results:
Cannot 210
cannot 865
Can't 216
can't 796
Lowercase wins uppercase with score 4:1 and short and long forms are
equivalent.
I left the decision to English speakers.
> Also, you said that one of the re module's messages was better, but didn't
> say which! Did you mean this one?
> > re: expected bytes, bytearray, or an object with the buffer interface,
> > str found
> > regex: expected bytes instance, str found
Both are not good. re variant is too verbose, but it is more correct.
May be 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 16, 18 are better in re.
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msg226847 - (view) |
Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) *  |
Date: 2014-09-12 22:07 |
I prefer "cannot" for error messages. "Can't" is an informal version of "cannot", used in speech, dialog representing speech, and 'informal' writing. It looks wrong to me in this context.
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msg227065 - (view) |
Author: Mark Lawrence (BreamoreBoy) * |
Date: 2014-09-18 21:08 |
How can anything that's in the stdlib be unified with something that's not in the stdlib and currently has no prospects of getting in the stdlib?
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msg227084 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2014-09-19 08:03 |
The regex module is potential candidate for replacement of the re module.
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msg227119 - (view) |
Author: Mark Lawrence (BreamoreBoy) * |
Date: 2014-09-19 20:41 |
The key word is "potential". I do not believe that any changes should be made to the re module until such time as there is a fully approved PEP for the regex module and that work has actually started on getting it into the stdlib. Surely backward compatibility also comes into this?
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msg227130 - (view) |
Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) *  |
Date: 2014-09-19 23:03 |
Steven and Mark are correct that a tracker patch cannot change a 3rd party module. On the other hand, we are free to improve error messages in new versions. And we are free to borrow ideas from 3rd part modules. I changed the title accordingly.
(Back compatibility comes into play in not making message enhancements in bugfix releases even though message details are not part of the documented API. People who write code that depends on those details, and doctexts need not so depend, should expect to revise for new versions. I expect that some of our re tests would need to be changed.)
Re and regex are a bit special in that regex is the only re replacement (that I know of) and is (almost) a drop-in replacement. So some people *are*, on their own, replacing re with regex by installing regex (easy with pip) and adding 'import regex as re' at the top of their code.
Serhiy suggested either picking the best or writing a new one, I think a new one combining both would be best in many of the cases. As a user, I like "name missing terminal '>'" for #2 (is there an adjective for a name in this context?) and for #4, "group name missing terminal '>'". (Note that we usually quote literals, as in #8.) For #12, I would like a parallel construction "set expression missing terminal ']'" if that is possible. But the currently vague re message "unexpected end of regular expression" might be raised as a point where the specific information is lost and only the general version is correct.
As for #14, either UNICODE and LOCALE *are* compatible (for re) or this is buggy.
>>> import re
>>> re.compile(r'\w', re.UNICODE | re.LOCALE)
re.compile('\\w', re.LOCALE|re.UNICODE)
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msg227132 - (view) |
Author: Steven D'Aprano (steven.daprano) *  |
Date: 2014-09-19 23:56 |
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:41:57PM +0000, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> I do not believe that any changes should be made to the re module
> until such time as there is a fully approved PEP [....]
Why is this so controversial? We're not talking about functional changes
to the re module, we're talking about improving error messages. Firstly,
the actual wording of error messages are not part of the API and are
subject to change without notice. Secondly, nobody is talking about
keeping the two modules syncronised on an on-going basis. This is just
to improve the re error messages using regex as inspiration.
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msg228599 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2014-10-05 17:44 |
> As for #14, either UNICODE and LOCALE *are* compatible (for re) or this is buggy.
This is buggy (issue22407).
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msg230464 - (view) |
Author: Ezio Melotti (ezio.melotti) *  |
Date: 2014-11-01 22:13 |
+1 on the idea.
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msg230481 - (view) |
Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) *  |
Date: 2014-11-02 07:34 |
+1
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msg230965 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2014-11-10 16:50 |
Here is a patch which makes re error messages match regex. It doesn't look to me that all these changes are enhancements.
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msg231057 - (view) |
Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) *  |
Date: 2014-11-12 00:46 |
I already said we should either stick with what we have if better (and gave examples, including sticking with 'cannot') or possibly combine the best of both if we can improve on both. 13 should use 'bytes-like' (already changed?). There is no review button.
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msg235532 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2015-02-07 23:34 |
Here is a patch which unify and improves re error messages. Added tests for all parsing errors. Now error message always points on the start of affected component, i.e. on the start of bad escape, group name or unterminated subpattern.
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msg235534 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2015-02-07 23:37 |
re_errors_diff.txt contains differences for all tested error messages.
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msg235678 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2015-02-10 10:29 |
Updated patch addresses Ezio's comments.
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msg236188 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2015-02-18 18:24 |
Here is a patch for regex which makes some error messages be the same as in re with re_errors_2.patch. You could apply it to regex if new error messages look better than old error messages. Otherwise we could change re error messages to match regex, or discuss better variants.
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msg236201 - (view) |
Author: Matthew Barnett (mrabarnett) *  |
Date: 2015-02-18 23:24 |
Some error messages use the indefinite article:
"expected a bytes-like object, %.200s found"
"cannot use a bytes pattern on a string-like object"
"cannot use a string pattern on a bytes-like object"
but others don't:
"expected string instance, %.200s found"
"expected str instance, %.200s found"
Messages tend to be abbreviated, so I think that it would be better to just omit the article.
I don't think that the error message "bad repeat interval" is an improvement (Why is it "bad"? What is an "interval"?). I think that saying that the min is greater than the max is clearer.
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msg236257 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2015-02-20 08:59 |
> Messages tend to be abbreviated, so I think that it would be better to just
> omit the article.
I agree, but this is came from standard error messages which are not
consistent. I opened a thread on Python-Dev.
"expected a bytes-like object" and "expected str instance" are standard error
messages raised in bytes.join and str.join, not in re. We could change them
though.
> I don't think that the error message "bad repeat interval" is an improvement
> (Why is it "bad"? What is an "interval"?). I think that saying that the min
> is greater than the max is clearer.
Agree. I'll change this in re. What message is better in case of overflow: "the
repetition number is too large" (in re) or "repeat count too big" (in regex)?
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msg236549 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2015-02-24 21:56 |
Updated patch borrows the error message about min > max from regex.
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msg236551 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2015-02-24 22:04 |
Removed changing TypeError errors and "bad repeat interval" error in updated regex patch.
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msg236954 - (view) |
Author: Serhiy Storchaka (serhiy.storchaka) *  |
Date: 2015-03-01 11:04 |
Could anyone please make a review? This patch is a prerequisite of other patches.
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msg239279 - (view) |
Author: Roundup Robot (python-dev)  |
Date: 2015-03-25 19:04 |
New changeset 068365acbe73 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch 'default':
Issue #22364: Improved some re error messages using regex for hints.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/068365acbe73
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