I am one of Japanese translate of Python documents.
We have done translating Python 2.7 document and will start
translating Python 3.2 or 3.3.

I want to use sphinx-i18n and pootle to translate.
But http://pootle.python.org/ is very outdated.
Anyone can update the site?
If nobody maintain the site, could I create Python Document project at http://pootle.locamotion.org/ ?

I'd rather have you maintain poodle.python.org instead of maintaining Python translations off-site.

Agreed with Martin.  I would be nice to get a statement on the status of pootle.python.org (social aspects like updating and publishing the translations + organization of teams), but Georg seems busy.

(This would probably be more at home on a mailing list rather than in the CPython bug tracker.)

I've never really had a hand in pootle.python.org; it was set up by Martin and Robert Lehmann, and Sandro Tosi also wanted to lend a hand...

Yeah, I really would like to help with pootle, but it seems we don't have a current status of the thing + a roadmap to where we want to go.

From the top of my head, I think we need at least:

- the current setup of the machine/service
- updated packages for pootle + its deps (it should be a debian machine, so I can leverage my DD status to help here)
- plan the migration from the current pootle to the updated one
- start advertise pootle, which is much better than having a lot of people translating python doc on their own websites instead of a central (official) place
- maybe rename the service?

naoki: what is your actual complaint about the installation being outdated? Are you referring to the message catalog (documentation version), or the software?

As for the message catalog, I don't think it should be updated too often (only once per Python release), otherwise, translators will have to fight a moving target (which they will have to, anyway, given that the documentation evolves).

Whatever updating procedure is performed: preserving the existing translations and the existing accounts is an absolute must.

I'm not sure what good renaming the service would do; this sounds like bike shedding.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Martin v. Löwis
<report@bugs.python.org> wrote:
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> Martin v. Löwis <martin@v.loewis.de> added the comment:
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> naoki: what is your actual complaint about the installation being outdated? Are you referring to the message catalog (documentation version), or the software?

I need Python 3.2's message catalog. But updating pootle version is
also nice to me.

> As for the message catalog, I don't think it should be updated too often (only once per Python release), otherwise, translators will have to fight a moving target (which they will have to, anyway, given that the documentation evolves).
>

I agree with you about already released series (~3.2).
I think updating message catalog for beta versions may help releasing new
Python's translated document fast.

The way to manage multiple series is also needed when Python 3.3 is released.

pootle.python.org has been disabled.