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Title: Rewrite logging hack of the threading module
Type: Stage: resolved
Components: Library (Lib) Versions: Python 3.3
Status: closed Resolution: fixed
Dependencies: Superseder:
Assigned To: Nosy List: eric.araujo, jcea, ncoghlan, neologix, pitrou, python-dev, tim.peters, vstinner
Priority: normal Keywords: patch

Created on 2011-12-07 22:40 by vstinner, last changed 2022-04-11 14:57 by admin. This issue is now closed.

File name Uploaded Description Edit
threading_note.patch vstinner, 2011-12-07 22:40 review
threading_note_global.patch vstinner, 2011-12-07 23:16 review
Messages (10)
msg149001 - (view) Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * (Python committer) Date: 2011-12-07 22:40
The threading module uses an hack to log actions to help debugging. The log depends on 3 flags: __debug__, threading._VERBOSE and a verbose attribute (each threading class has such attribute). By default, _note() is always called but does nothing: it checks the verbose attribute and return if the flag is False.

Attached threading_note.patch only calls _note() if verbose is True to avoid a Python function call (which is slow in CPython). It avoids also a _Verbose parent class and pass the verbose flag to subobjects (e.g. Semaphore sets verbose argument of its Condition object).

I don't think that it is really useful to be able to enable/disable logs on only one threading object, so it is maybe simpler to have only one global flag (instead of 3 flags): threading._VERBOSE. Attached threading_note_global.patch replaces _note() method by a function, remove _Verbose class and the _verbose attribute, and only call _note() if _VERBOSE is True.

_VERBOSE and verbose arguments are undocumented and not tested, so I hope nobody relies on their API ;-)
msg149003 - (view) Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * (Python committer) Date: 2011-12-07 23:16
(threading_note_global.patch was completly wrong, here is the fixed version)
msg149084 - (view) Author: Antoine Pitrou (pitrou) * (Python committer) Date: 2011-12-09 10:11
Tim, do you happen to know what the goal was with the threading._VERBOSE hack and the undocumented _Verbose class?
msg149166 - (view) Author: Éric Araujo (eric.araujo) * (Python committer) Date: 2011-12-10 16:30
On #13550 I asked Guido about the Thing/_Thing function/class indirection and use of _Verbose; the reply:

> The design started out this way because it predates new-style classes. When this was put in one
> couldn't subclass extension types, and there were plans/hopes to replace some of the lock types
> with platform-specific built-in versions on some platforms.
> Since it is now possible to write subclassable extension types the Thing/_Thing design is no
> longer needed.
> I'm not sure about the _Verbose hacks, if it is deemed not useful I'm fine with letting it go.
msg149823 - (view) Author: Charles-François Natali (neologix) * (Python committer) Date: 2011-12-19 09:08
I'm personally +1 on removing the verbose thing altogether:
- it's ugly
- I doubt it's really useful (I mean, printing to stderr - which is often line buffered or unbuffered - upon every action will probably change the timing)
- it also brings some problems on its own, e.g. #4188

So unless there's a good reason behind it, I think we could let it go.
msg150803 - (view) Author: Charles-François Natali (neologix) * (Python committer) Date: 2012-01-07 15:55
Alright, Nick agreed on python-dev to remove the logging hack.
msg150805 - (view) Author: Éric Araujo (eric.araujo) * (Python committer) Date: 2012-01-07 16:09
haypo’s threading_note_global looks good to me.  The only thing I’m not sure about is the signature change from X(verbose, *args, **kwargs) to X(*args, **kwargs): is it okay?

(BTW you probably want to delete the obsolete reference to ihooks in a comment before committing.)
msg152820 - (view) Author: STINNER Victor (vstinner) * (Python committer) Date: 2012-02-07 23:42
> Alright, Nick agreed on python-dev to remove the logging hack.

You mean removing complelty debug logging from the threading module? Or just to simplify the code to decide if we should log or not?
msg152824 - (view) Author: Nick Coghlan (ncoghlan) * (Python committer) Date: 2012-02-08 01:09
I believe Charles-François was referring to this message:

We shouldn't be encumbering threading *all the time* with stuff that "might be useful sometimes". Adding selective output to help debug problems can be handled with Thread subclasses, or even temporarily running with a modified (for people hacking on the stdlib itself).
msg154815 - (view) Author: Roundup Robot (python-dev) (Python triager) Date: 2012-03-03 00:35
New changeset 8ec51b2e57c2 by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Close #13550: Remove the debug machinery from the threading module: remove
Date User Action Args
2022-04-11 14:57:24adminsetgithub: 57759
2012-03-03 00:35:31python-devsetstatus: open -> closed

nosy: + python-dev
messages: + msg154815

resolution: fixed
stage: resolved
2012-02-08 01:09:24ncoghlansetmessages: + msg152824
2012-02-07 23:42:21vstinnersetmessages: + msg152820
2012-01-07 16:09:17eric.araujosetmessages: + msg150805
2012-01-07 15:55:46neologixsetnosy: + ncoghlan
messages: + msg150803
2012-01-04 04:36:13jceasetnosy: + jcea
2011-12-19 09:08:10neologixsetnosy: + neologix
messages: + msg149823
2011-12-10 16:30:15eric.araujosetnosy: + eric.araujo
messages: + msg149166
2011-12-09 10:11:37pitrousetnosy: + pitrou, tim.peters
messages: + msg149084
2011-12-07 23:16:25vstinnersetfiles: + threading_note_global.patch

messages: + msg149003
2011-12-07 23:15:59vstinnersetfiles: - threading_note_global.patch
2011-12-07 22:40:41vstinnersetfiles: + threading_note_global.patch
2011-12-07 22:40:25vstinnercreate