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Title: PEP 1: Allow Provisional status for PEPs
Type: enhancement Stage: resolved
Components: Versions:
process
Status: closed Resolution: third party
Dependencies: Superseder:
Assigned To: ncoghlan Nosy List: Jeremy.Hylton, barry, cheryl.sabella, goodger, ncoghlan
Priority: normal Keywords:

Created on 2014-12-18 00:08 by ncoghlan, last changed 2022-04-11 14:58 by admin. This issue is now closed.

Messages (7)
msg232842 - (view) Author: Nick Coghlan (ncoghlan) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-12-18 00:08
As per python-dev discussion [1], filing this as the home for a proposed update to PEP 1 that allows Standards Track PEPs to be granted Provisional status before moving on to Accepted/Final.

The new status will be for PEPs where we want to release an initial reference implementation (whether in CPython under PEP 411 or through the PyPA toolchain) before locking down the exact details of the API specification.

[1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-December/137622.html
msg233226 - (view) Author: Nick Coghlan (ncoghlan) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-12-31 01:54
As we've started working through the post-release PEP 440 changes, I think this is definitely worthy of a separate PEP. I'll take the opportunity to pitch some other changes as well, like separating out the interoperability standards from the informational PEPs like the CPython release process guide, and add new metadata headers to indicate when the reference implementation of a standard is provided by a project other than CPython.

We may decide the extra complexity isn't worth it, but after wrangling PEP 440 through to completion under the delegation of authority to distutils-sig, I'd at least like to have the discussion about what we think represents a "necessary, but sufficient" level of process change.
msg233243 - (view) Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-12-31 14:51
On Dec 31, 2014, at 01:54 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:

>As we've started working through the post-release PEP 440 changes, I think
>this is definitely worthy of a separate PEP.

I'm open to discussion and ideas, but I want to caution against spreading
information about the PEP (and more largely, enhancing Python) process over
too many documents.   PEP 1 and the process has worked well I think because
it's relatively easy to find information on the process in a concise format.
I also don't think we necessarily need to cross-and-dot every I-and-T.
Flexibility can be a good thing too.
msg233263 - (view) Author: Nick Coghlan (ncoghlan) * (Python committer) Date: 2014-12-31 18:13
The new PEP wouldn't be a permanent one - it would be describing the proposed changes to PEP 1, and the rationale for them.

It would be for my own benefit as much as anyone's - if I can't explain the proposed change and its intended benefits clearly in PEP form, its probably a bad idea :)
msg312523 - (view) Author: Cheryl Sabella (cheryl.sabella) * (Python committer) Date: 2018-02-22 00:40
Pull request:
https://github.com/python/peps/pull/577
msg312528 - (view) Author: Nick Coghlan (ncoghlan) * (Python committer) Date: 2018-02-22 02:43
I'll also note that I made my comments above about writing a new PEP prior to the migration to GitHub and the availability of a PR-based workflow for reviewing PEP changes.

So consider the PR Cheryl linked and the post at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2018-February/152205.html the replacement for that PEP suggestion :)
msg335656 - (view) Author: Cheryl Sabella (cheryl.sabella) * (Python committer) Date: 2019-02-15 23:34
Closing as third party since this moved to the PEP repository.
History
Date User Action Args
2022-04-11 14:58:11adminsetgithub: 67266
2019-02-15 23:34:33cheryl.sabellasetstatus: open -> closed
resolution: third party
messages: + msg335656

stage: needs patch -> resolved
2018-02-22 02:43:01ncoghlansetmessages: + msg312528
2018-02-22 00:40:55cheryl.sabellasetnosy: + cheryl.sabella
messages: + msg312523
2014-12-31 18:13:41ncoghlansetmessages: + msg233263
2014-12-31 14:51:22barrysetmessages: + msg233243
2014-12-31 01:54:09ncoghlansetmessages: + msg233226
2014-12-18 00:08:58ncoghlancreate